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Can you please point me to a single environmentalist who is against nuclear power, solar power, geothermal energy, and high-rise buildings but is for golf cours

Can you please point me to a single environmentalist who is against nuclear power, solar power, geothermal energy, and high-rise buildings but is for golf courses? I'm sure you can find plenty of people who check one or more of those boxes, but I'm interested to know if there's anyone who checks enough of them to be self-contradictory. If you can't point me to one person who holds all beliefs, then you're falling for the classic fallacy of treating a group of individuals as if they were a hive mind. See comments about how "HN" both believes in unrestricted capitalism and supports privacy regulations.

renewiltord 2y ago
Sure. Cost and contact information for research contract is in my profile.
dylan604 2y ago
Donald Trump comes to mind
- lolinder 2y ago
  I'm not convinced Donald Trump believes anything at all, so I think he doesn't count. (Not to mention that Trump tower would seem to exclude him from being against high rises.)
  - dylan604 2y ago
    What, 3 out of 4 isn't good enough for you? The high rise part of the comment is an example of "one of these things is not like the others" in that of course people all about the money will like high rises. It also doesn't matter what you think Donald Trump does or does not believe. He has a 4 year track record, and is on record making comments about what he will do if elected again.
    - stouset 2y ago
      The Trump administration backed away from policies meant to reduce carbon emissions, and promoted policies meant to increase energy independence through increased reliance on and use of fossil fuels. The same administration also rolled back nearly 100 separate environmental regulations. It supported developing energy reserves on federally protected land, including national forests and near national monuments. Trump himself has regularly expressed skepticism over anthropogenic global warming. I’m… genuinely not sure you can reconcile this with a claim of him being an environmentalist on any axis.
      - dylan604 2y ago
        I don't know what I read to get a totally opposite meaning of the original comment, but rereading it now does make this ID10T level of WTF
        lolinder 2y ago
        I modified my original comment to replace "people" with "environmentalist" in the first sentence to clarify what I meant—you probably read it before I did that. Sorry.
        stouset 2y ago
        I mean there are definitely some misguided people who claim to believe just that, so I was trying to take you seriously :)
- stouset 2y ago
  Just so we’re clear, you’re asserting that Donald Trump is an environmentalist? So we’re on the same page, Wiktionary defines that as: one who advocates for the protection of the environment and biosphere from misuse from human activity.

renewiltord 2y ago

Sure. Cost and contact information for research contract is in my profile.

dylan604 2y ago

Donald Trump comes to mind

lolinder 2y ago
I'm not convinced Donald Trump believes anything at all, so I think he doesn't count. (Not to mention that Trump tower would seem to exclude him from being against high rises.)
- dylan604 2y ago
  What, 3 out of 4 isn't good enough for you? The high rise part of the comment is an example of "one of these things is not like the others" in that of course people all about the money will like high rises. It also doesn't matter what you think Donald Trump does or does not believe. He has a 4 year track record, and is on record making comments about what he will do if elected again.
  - stouset 2y ago
    The Trump administration backed away from policies meant to reduce carbon emissions, and promoted policies meant to increase energy independence through increased reliance on and use of fossil fuels. The same administration also rolled back nearly 100 separate environmental regulations. It supported developing energy reserves on federally protected land, including national forests and near national monuments. Trump himself has regularly expressed skepticism over anthropogenic global warming. I’m… genuinely not sure you can reconcile this with a claim of him being an environmentalist on any axis.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      I don't know what I read to get a totally opposite meaning of the original comment, but rereading it now does make this ID10T level of WTF
      - lolinder 2y ago
        I modified my original comment to replace "people" with "environmentalist" in the first sentence to clarify what I meant—you probably read it before I did that. Sorry.
      - stouset 2y ago
        I mean there are definitely some misguided people who claim to believe just that, so I was trying to take you seriously :)
stouset 2y ago
Just so we’re clear, you’re asserting that Donald Trump is an environmentalist? So we’re on the same page, Wiktionary defines that as: one who advocates for the protection of the environment and biosphere from misuse from human activity.