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> Microsoft's chief complaint is that the App Store rules require subscriptions and features to be made available on iOS devices with in-app purchase, which i

> Microsoft's chief complaint is that the App Store rules require subscriptions and features to be made available on iOS devices with in-app purchase, which is "not feasible." This is nonsense. There's no flat IAP requirement. How do Microsoft have Microsoft Office apps? How are Adobe apps there? Or Amazon Kindle? If you aren't selling from within the app, Apple allows you to sell things elsewhere and log into it from apps. (This does impose an actual problem: they'd have to turn off their store from Xbox dashboard, and IAP from games, if inside that iOS app, or concede another 30%. BUT, they already have this code, given parental controls. Just flip the "no purchases on this device" flag, done.) Further, if you want the "app", why? Playing Xbox using iOS works beautifully on iPhones and iPads today, just go to https://www.xbox.com/play https://www.xbox.com/play and save that to your home screen. Supports controllers, and silky smooth. When I play games on an iPad 13" people freak out: "How does that work?" It has for years... This obsession with "apps" is a bit silly.

lelandfe 2y ago
IIRC, Apple disallows instructing users how to purchase said things elsewhere. It's a very weird position to be in as a user. For instance, I can't buy any ebooks on my iPhone's Kindle or Google Play Books apps. Edit: "There's no flat IAP requirement" - https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ > 3.1.1 - If you want to unlock features or functionality within your app, (by way of example: subscriptions, in-game currencies, game levels, access to premium content, or unlocking a full version), you must use in-app purchase > [..] > 3.1.1(a) - Link to Other Purchase Methods: Developers may apply for entitlements to provide a link in their app to a website the developer owns or maintains responsibility for in order to purchase digital content or services So it looks like you can apply to host a link, though Apple isn't clear on when they'll grant it: https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitlement-us/ https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitl... EU devs can seemingly just use them, though: https://developer.apple.com/support/apps-using-alternative-payment-providers-in-the-eu/ https://developer.apple.com/support/apps-using-alternative-p...

lelandfe 2y ago

IIRC, Apple disallows instructing users how to purchase said things elsewhere. It's a very weird position to be in as a user. For instance, I can't buy any ebooks on my iPhone's Kindle or Google Play Books apps. Edit: "There's no flat IAP requirement" - https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ > 3.1.1 - If you want to unlock features or functionality within your app, (by way of example: subscriptions, in-game currencies, game levels, access to premium content, or unlocking a full version), you must use in-app purchase > [..] > 3.1.1(a) - Link to Other Purchase Methods: Developers may apply for entitlements to provide a link in their app to a website the developer owns or maintains responsibility for in order to purchase digital content or services So it looks like you can apply to host a link, though Apple isn't clear on when they'll grant it: https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitlement-us/ https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitl... EU devs can seemingly just use them, though: https://developer.apple.com/support/apps-using-alternative-payment-providers-in-the-eu/ https://developer.apple.com/support/apps-using-alternative-p...