Not sure about your use of "materialist" but there are plenty of examples of things like meditation having real physiological effects. Such as excessive meditat

Not sure about your use of "materialist" but there are plenty of examples of things like meditation having real physiological effects. Such as excessive meditation causing enlargement of certain areas of the brain that lead to (sometimes temporary, sometimes permanent) mental illness. There was an article about this on HN a few months ago, I can dig it up if needed. Point being that it's entirely possible for the perceived sequence of events as described in the anecdote above to be true as experienced by that person, without the need for anything supernatural going on. I would be curious to know why you think that scientific explanations will get more, not less, supernatural in the next 20 years. EDIT: dug up the article https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad