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> The notion of a babbling baby in the Roman Senate, a Victorian ball or Meiji Dai Shin’in is laughable. Yes because those institutions didn't have a lot of wo
by Barrin92 2y ago
> The notion of a babbling baby in the Roman Senate, a Victorian ball or Meiji Dai Shin’in is laughable.
Yes because those institutions didn't have a lot of women or mothers in them, and the people participating in them had servants and slaves that took care of their progeny.
I know the reality of the modern world hasn't reached everyone yet but we don't exclude mothers from public life any more so maybe the idea of having children in public bodies isn't that "laughable" any more.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> because those institutions didn't have a lot of women or mothers in them, and the people participating in them had servants and slaves that took care of their progeny Correct. I'm challenging the notion that we "tolerate[d] some noise from" children in the past. (Though even in matriarchal societies, e.g. the Haudenosaunee / Iroquois, I don't recall reading about children in the Long House where official business was conducted.) > the modern world hasn't reached everyone yet but we don't exclude mothers from public life any more so maybe the idea of having children in public bodies isn't that "laughable" any more Perhaps. But if we are to have that discussion, it has to be honest about that being novel.