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> But first do you have evidence There is plentiful evidence for this if you know where to look. For example, Travis King was a U.S. military official who tri

> But first do you have evidence There is plentiful evidence for this if you know where to look. For example, Travis King was a U.S. military official who tried to defect to North Korea. His reason for this was that he was targeted by (presumably) psychopaths in the military for his skin color. I am not saying that defecting to North Korea is the answer (it isn't), but my theory would at least provide a rational reason why one would think that would solve his problems. > and second why do they get in that state instead of realizing some people do bad things? It is the result of being targeted by psychopaths. The brain can adapt: if one is being targeted, the brain looks for or will generate reasons for this.

ceejayoz 2y ago
Travis King was facing discharge and punishment for possession of child porn. "Military official" is not how one generally describes people with the rank of Private. Even the North Koreans didn't want him, despite the typical propaganda coup "US soldier defects to Best Korea" it would've been. They sent him back.
- djaouen 2y ago
  > Travis King was facing discharge and punishment for possession of child porn. I am honestly skeptical of this claim. This seems to be the go-to excuse for scapegoating: just claim the individual was in possession of illegal material and then no one has the right to defend her!
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-soldier-got-fights-damaged-police-car-before-dash-north-korea-court-docs-2023-07-19/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-soldier-got-fi... > King pleaded guilty to assault and destruction of public goods stemming from an October incident, and on Feb. 8 the Seoul Western District Court fined him 5 million won ($4,000), according to a copy of the ruling reviewed by Reuters. We can either believe "he got in trouble and did something dumb", or we can believe there was some giant conspiracy against him. Again, even the North Koreans didn't want to keep him; they're about the least likely to go along with a "targeting" by the US government on the planet.
AStonesThrow 2y ago
This is true: most family members were quite normal and my school/church environment was mostly devoid of psychopaths. But I'd say the vast majority of psychopaths have been encountered on the airwaves and the Internet. I wasn't permitted to have a modem for awhile, because my parents didn't really want me to have two-way chats with strangers. Yet I was exposed to all kinds of harmful TV and radio. There is truly psychopathic behavior out there which we invite into our homes; we see it distantly, as through a mirror, but it feels innocuous because we can "control" it and switch the channel at will. Or can we? By college I was surrounded by virtual psychopaths and mentally ill behavior. It was unavoidable. There was fantasy role-playing, AD&D, furries, sitcoms, crazy websites and forums, Slashdot, Usenet, just infested with psychopaths and bizarre malicious ideas.
- pesus 2y ago
  > By college I was surrounded by virtual psychopaths and mentally ill behavior. It was unavoidable. There was fantasy role-playing, AD&D, furries, sitcoms, crazy websites and forums, Slashdot, Usenet, just infested with psychopaths and bizarre malicious ideas. By your own admittance you've heard voices in your head throughout your life, but you think people playing D&D or watching Friends are somehow mentally ill psychopaths with "bizarre malicious ideas"?
  - yonaguska 2y ago
    I read it as- there are psychopaths operating within and bizarre malicious ideas being propagated through those hobbies and mediums. I'm inclined to agree, but I wouldn't single it out to any specific hobby, activity, forum, news-source- though some are definitely more prone to infestation.
  - AStonesThrow 2y ago
    Some are; not "watching Friends" but many TV programs model and demonstrate mentally unstable behaviors, and role-players play characters, usually not themselves, and the epithet "murder hobo" is not inaccurate. Yes, many bizarre and malicious ideas have been introduced to me and my classmates through Nethack play and merely observing role-players going at it in a violent, dangerous fantasy world of their own design. For autists and others who find it difficult to separate fantasy/reality, or understand metaphor and allegory, we tend to mistakenly impose fantastic ideas upon the mundane world around us. For all the hours I invested in DOOM 2, I'm not actually a US Marine, I don't carry firearms, human passengers on the train are not Beholders or Revenants, and when someone leaves a coat behind, that's not an Armor Pak for you to grab! ...but I can still distinctly hear his grunts and screams as the demons injure him...

ceejayoz 2y ago

Travis King was facing discharge and punishment for possession of child porn. "Military official" is not how one generally describes people with the rank of Private. Even the North Koreans didn't want him, despite the typical propaganda coup "US soldier defects to Best Korea" it would've been. They sent him back.

djaouen 2y ago
> Travis King was facing discharge and punishment for possession of child porn. I am honestly skeptical of this claim. This seems to be the go-to excuse for scapegoating: just claim the individual was in possession of illegal material and then no one has the right to defend her!
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-soldier-got-fights-damaged-police-car-before-dash-north-korea-court-docs-2023-07-19/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-soldier-got-fi... > King pleaded guilty to assault and destruction of public goods stemming from an October incident, and on Feb. 8 the Seoul Western District Court fined him 5 million won ($4,000), according to a copy of the ruling reviewed by Reuters. We can either believe "he got in trouble and did something dumb", or we can believe there was some giant conspiracy against him. Again, even the North Koreans didn't want to keep him; they're about the least likely to go along with a "targeting" by the US government on the planet.

AStonesThrow 2y ago

This is true: most family members were quite normal and my school/church environment was mostly devoid of psychopaths. But I'd say the vast majority of psychopaths have been encountered on the airwaves and the Internet. I wasn't permitted to have a modem for awhile, because my parents didn't really want me to have two-way chats with strangers. Yet I was exposed to all kinds of harmful TV and radio. There is truly psychopathic behavior out there which we invite into our homes; we see it distantly, as through a mirror, but it feels innocuous because we can "control" it and switch the channel at will. Or can we? By college I was surrounded by virtual psychopaths and mentally ill behavior. It was unavoidable. There was fantasy role-playing, AD&D, furries, sitcoms, crazy websites and forums, Slashdot, Usenet, just infested with psychopaths and bizarre malicious ideas.

pesus 2y ago
> By college I was surrounded by virtual psychopaths and mentally ill behavior. It was unavoidable. There was fantasy role-playing, AD&D, furries, sitcoms, crazy websites and forums, Slashdot, Usenet, just infested with psychopaths and bizarre malicious ideas. By your own admittance you've heard voices in your head throughout your life, but you think people playing D&D or watching Friends are somehow mentally ill psychopaths with "bizarre malicious ideas"?
- yonaguska 2y ago
  I read it as- there are psychopaths operating within and bizarre malicious ideas being propagated through those hobbies and mediums. I'm inclined to agree, but I wouldn't single it out to any specific hobby, activity, forum, news-source- though some are definitely more prone to infestation.
- AStonesThrow 2y ago
  Some are; not "watching Friends" but many TV programs model and demonstrate mentally unstable behaviors, and role-players play characters, usually not themselves, and the epithet "murder hobo" is not inaccurate. Yes, many bizarre and malicious ideas have been introduced to me and my classmates through Nethack play and merely observing role-players going at it in a violent, dangerous fantasy world of their own design. For autists and others who find it difficult to separate fantasy/reality, or understand metaphor and allegory, we tend to mistakenly impose fantastic ideas upon the mundane world around us. For all the hours I invested in DOOM 2, I'm not actually a US Marine, I don't carry firearms, human passengers on the train are not Beholders or Revenants, and when someone leaves a coat behind, that's not an Armor Pak for you to grab! ...but I can still distinctly hear his grunts and screams as the demons injure him...