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I used the word "install" but the usual rule says I can't install, upload, or execute any non-approved software. Usually that just gets stated as a policy, but

I used the word "install" but the usual rule says I can't install, upload, or execute any non-approved software. Usually that just gets stated as a policy, but I have seen Linux home directories on noexec partitions -- government agencies and big corporations can get very strict about that. So copying a self-contained binary up and running it would violate the policy. I pretty much live in ssh. Remote Desktop means a lot of clicking and watching a GUI visibly repaint. Not efficient. Every so often I have customers using applications that only run on Windows, no API, no command line, so they will enable RDP to that, usually through a VPN.

kragen 2y ago
i see! but i guess your .profile and .vimrc don't count?
- gregjor 2y ago
  They aren't executables.
  - kragen 2y ago
    my cousin wrote a vt52 emulator in bash, and i was looking at a macro assembler written in bash the other day: https://github.com/jhswartz/mle-amd64/blob/master/amd64 https://github.com/jhswartz/mle-amd64/blob/master/amd64. i haven't seen a cscope written in bash, but you probably remember how the first versions of ctags were written in sh (or csh?) and ed. so there's not much limit to how far shell functions can go in augmenting your programming environment if awk, python, or perl is accepted, the possibilities expand further
    - kelnos 2y ago
      Sure, but this is taking things to a bit of an absurd extreme. If I worked in a restrictive environment where I couldn't install my own tools, I don't think I would be in a position to burn a ton of my employer's time building sophisticated development tools in bash. (One-off small scripts for things, sure. But I'm not going to implement something like ctags or cscope or a LSP server in bash.)
      - kragen 2y ago
        certainly it's absurd! nobody would deny that. on the other hand, the problem to solve is also an absurd problem and i wasn't suggesting trying to bill for doing it, but rather, if you were frequently in this situation, it might be reasonable to spend non-billable time between clients doing it
        gregjor 2y ago
        I guess I don’t see the problem as absurd. As a freelancer I need to focus on the problems the customer will pay for. I don’t write code for free or in my spare time anymore, I used to years ago. i feel comfortable working with the constraints imposed, I think of that as a valuable skill, not a handicap.
        kragen 2y ago
        i see. thank you very much for being willing to share your invaluable experience and hard-won wisdom

kragen 2y ago

i see! but i guess your .profile and .vimrc don't count?

gregjor 2y ago
They aren't executables.
- kragen 2y ago
  my cousin wrote a vt52 emulator in bash, and i was looking at a macro assembler written in bash the other day: https://github.com/jhswartz/mle-amd64/blob/master/amd64 https://github.com/jhswartz/mle-amd64/blob/master/amd64. i haven't seen a cscope written in bash, but you probably remember how the first versions of ctags were written in sh (or csh?) and ed. so there's not much limit to how far shell functions can go in augmenting your programming environment if awk, python, or perl is accepted, the possibilities expand further
  - kelnos 2y ago
    Sure, but this is taking things to a bit of an absurd extreme. If I worked in a restrictive environment where I couldn't install my own tools, I don't think I would be in a position to burn a ton of my employer's time building sophisticated development tools in bash. (One-off small scripts for things, sure. But I'm not going to implement something like ctags or cscope or a LSP server in bash.)
    - kragen 2y ago
      certainly it's absurd! nobody would deny that. on the other hand, the problem to solve is also an absurd problem and i wasn't suggesting trying to bill for doing it, but rather, if you were frequently in this situation, it might be reasonable to spend non-billable time between clients doing it
      - gregjor 2y ago
        I guess I don’t see the problem as absurd. As a freelancer I need to focus on the problems the customer will pay for. I don’t write code for free or in my spare time anymore, I used to years ago. i feel comfortable working with the constraints imposed, I think of that as a valuable skill, not a handicap.
        kragen 2y ago
        i see. thank you very much for being willing to share your invaluable experience and hard-won wisdom