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So Lue Elizondo (who is very much not a fringe person, with a lengthy career of service in the military and federal agencies) publishes a book that makes many a

So Lue Elizondo (who is very much not a fringe person, with a lengthy career of service in the military and federal agencies) publishes a book that makes many assertions about the reality of non-human intelligence and now we've got this condescending thinkpiece by some academic scold about how the peons are crazy? And after reading the paper, it's filled with the predictable moaning about protecting "indigenous stories". > If all of this stayed in its own box, as entertaining fiction, then matters would be fine. But it doesn't, and they aren't. Visitation narratives tend to overwrite indigenous storytelling about sky and ground. How does this get any play? Overwrite? In the digital age when the ability to publish and maintain and distribute information has never been easier? It's amazing the sorts of people who are able to get a foothold in academia cause this is seriously laughable.

seuraughty 2y ago
“Lue Elizondo (who is very much not a fringe person” Lue Elizondo is a highly fringe person, and has been for decades. He ‘learned’ remote viewing from Hal Puthoff, and claims he used it to somehow remotely interact with insurgents in Afghanistan. He also claims that he routinely sees colorful orbs floating around his house. He has also been caught faking UFO footage. In describing (now public) military FLIR footage in his book, he gets several basic facts wrong: https://youtu.be/V6Pc48yXWyI?si=4RIEbhOsM_cJFelg https://youtu.be/V6Pc48yXWyI?si=4RIEbhOsM_cJFelg
- lurking15 2y ago
  Lue Elizondo has not been fringe for decades, he has a very long and established career in counter-intel. Also Mick West left out key details and context of the Nimitz encounter which is laughable if he's trying to purport his video as substantial analysis.
  - seuraughty 2y ago
    If you feel remote viewing isn’t fringe we can agree to disagree. But between that and having colorful orbs fly around his house Elizondo is clearly prone to making fantastical claims without evidence, which undermines any claims of UAP (despite his authority in counter-intel).
    - lurking15 2y ago
      So when Jimmy Carter said he was able to recover a downed plane in Africa only after a psychic helped him, is that fringe?

seuraughty 2y ago

“Lue Elizondo (who is very much not a fringe person” Lue Elizondo is a highly fringe person, and has been for decades. He ‘learned’ remote viewing from Hal Puthoff, and claims he used it to somehow remotely interact with insurgents in Afghanistan. He also claims that he routinely sees colorful orbs floating around his house. He has also been caught faking UFO footage. In describing (now public) military FLIR footage in his book, he gets several basic facts wrong: https://youtu.be/V6Pc48yXWyI?si=4RIEbhOsM_cJFelg https://youtu.be/V6Pc48yXWyI?si=4RIEbhOsM_cJFelg

lurking15 2y ago
Lue Elizondo has not been fringe for decades, he has a very long and established career in counter-intel. Also Mick West left out key details and context of the Nimitz encounter which is laughable if he's trying to purport his video as substantial analysis.
- seuraughty 2y ago
  If you feel remote viewing isn’t fringe we can agree to disagree. But between that and having colorful orbs fly around his house Elizondo is clearly prone to making fantastical claims without evidence, which undermines any claims of UAP (despite his authority in counter-intel).
  - lurking15 2y ago
    So when Jimmy Carter said he was able to recover a downed plane in Africa only after a psychic helped him, is that fringe?