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"How does Google get the right to capture all the goodwill generated in the word blog? They are not the exclusive owner of it, as they are with the name Google.

by larrys 14y ago

"How does Google get the right to capture all the goodwill generated in the word blog? They are not the exclusive owner of it, as they are with the name Google. However they claim the right to become that owner, by paying $185K to ICANN. Nowhere in their proposal is an offer to pay money to the people who created the idea that they would take over. And what if the creators aren't willing to sell it to them? permalink" Dave - you own scripting.com. What gives you the right to control that? How is that any different? I can't use me.scripting.com without your approval. You didn't agree to letting anyone do that when you bought the domain for $x per year in fees. You didn't invent the word "scripting" you were just the one to get the domain back in 1995, right? What gives anyone the right to own any domain name "news.com" or "boat.com" etc? That said I am not a fan of the new TLD's but that's a separate issue.

davewiner 14y ago
It's not entirely different, but those were the rules everyone was playing by then. So in that sense it's very different. We haven't agreed to these new rules yet. I don't think we should. Hopefully that's not too subtle.
- larrys 14y ago
  "We haven't agreed to these new rules yet." Who's "we" sucka? (Sorry - see 2:17 in on the following had to crack a rare joke): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXDzsuqXFg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXDzsuqXFg "the rules everyone was playing by then" The rules are clearly laid out now. The difference is that you need to be able to pay real money to play now. Some of that is greed and some is practical. You need to limit the applicants to organizations with the financial wherewithal to be able to provide the stability needed (that said they do have some kind of program for less financially worth non-profits). "I don't think we should." To late for this now. The time to do that was many years ago when comments were invited and there were meetings etc. By the way there are many parts to the ICANN process that are exclusionary. To get to one of their meetings you have to be able to afford to get in an airplane and fly to an exotic (and sometimes) unsafe location. Nothing fair about that. But that is the way things are (in Washington as well).
  - mapgrep 14y ago
    > You need to limit the applicants to organizations with the financial wherewithal to be able to provide the stability needed Right, like Sun, Netscape, Digital Equipment Corporation, Silicon Graphics, GM, Lehman Brothers, etc. If any industry should know that "financial wherewithall" != stability, it's the technology industry.
  - davewiner 14y ago
    We as in the users of the Internet.
    - larrys 14y ago
      Meanwhile the gTLD director resigned yesterday: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4147181 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4147181
- quag 14y ago
  What about a kid who was born in 1997 and who is now turning 15? They didn't get a chance to play by the same rules as you did.

by larrys 14y ago

davewiner 14y ago

It's not entirely different, but those were the rules everyone was playing by then. So in that sense it's very different. We haven't agreed to these new rules yet. I don't think we should. Hopefully that's not too subtle.

larrys 14y ago
"We haven't agreed to these new rules yet." Who's "we" sucka? (Sorry - see 2:17 in on the following had to crack a rare joke): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXDzsuqXFg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXDzsuqXFg "the rules everyone was playing by then" The rules are clearly laid out now. The difference is that you need to be able to pay real money to play now. Some of that is greed and some is practical. You need to limit the applicants to organizations with the financial wherewithal to be able to provide the stability needed (that said they do have some kind of program for less financially worth non-profits). "I don't think we should." To late for this now. The time to do that was many years ago when comments were invited and there were meetings etc. By the way there are many parts to the ICANN process that are exclusionary. To get to one of their meetings you have to be able to afford to get in an airplane and fly to an exotic (and sometimes) unsafe location. Nothing fair about that. But that is the way things are (in Washington as well).
- mapgrep 14y ago
  > You need to limit the applicants to organizations with the financial wherewithal to be able to provide the stability needed Right, like Sun, Netscape, Digital Equipment Corporation, Silicon Graphics, GM, Lehman Brothers, etc. If any industry should know that "financial wherewithall" != stability, it's the technology industry.
- davewiner 14y ago
  We as in the users of the Internet.
  - larrys 14y ago
    Meanwhile the gTLD director resigned yesterday: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4147181 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4147181
quag 14y ago
What about a kid who was born in 1997 and who is now turning 15? They didn't get a chance to play by the same rules as you did.