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Yes you are a prude. There is nothing salacious about nudity especially at a beach!
by enneff 2y ago
Yes you are a prude. There is nothing salacious about nudity especially at a beach!
- quietbritishjim 2y agoIf you are on the beach with them, sure. If you stick it in a PowerPoint in an office, that's a different matter. (Same as if it's a nearly-naked man for that matter.)
- haswell 2y agoHow and why does this make it a different matter? Photographs capture a moment in time. This moment occurred at a beach. It wasn’t sexual then, and it’s not sexual now. If someone manipulated the image to be explicit or presented it in an obviously sexual context, that might be a different story, but even then, the original image itself was never inherently sexual. I’d reframe this to point out the image is very natural, i.e. what could be more natural than experiencing nature in one’s natural state? Seeing this as something sexual is a choice, and an unnecessary one at that.
- eigenket 2y ago> How and why does this make it a different matter? Context is important. I've spent time on nude beaches, that doesn't mean its appropriate to turn up to work with my dick out. What is appropriate in one place is weird in other places (it would also be weird to rock up to a nude beach in my work clothes).
- haswell 2y agoAppropriateness is orthogonal to sexualization though. Yes, context matters, but I fail to see anything about this particular context shift that is inherently sexual. It’s also worth pointing out that exposing your genitalia is in a different category than taking your top off, and certainly different than implied toplessness.
- eigenket 2y agoI fully agree that being topless at the beach is fine and cool, do whatever you like there. I also agree with the poster above who said it feels slightly weird to share a picture of that with people in a work environment.
- enneff 2y agoI think if it were a frontal shot then sure I’d agree. But in this case I think if you draw anything sexual from that image then you are just way too horny and that’s your business and yours alone. This is exactly the kind of image you would use to market Photoshop, a tool for image makers who are concerned with producing exactly this kind of idyllic, escapist scene.
- Mistletoe 2y agoOk, I encourage you to use this picture in your email signature at work or use it as your desktop wallpaper and see how far you get in 2024. And I think it is definitely a good thing it is like that now. How do you think women that worked where John Knoll was doing demos felt about the naked woman? Not sexualizing the workplace is better for everyone. Actually kind of dismayed to see HN be so "good ol' boy" on this one. It reminds me again how out of touch and male-dominated it is. I love the photo, but it's a great photo for private use, not work use. I think you guys aren't paying attention to the HR videos you are supposed to be watching. I do think John knew exactly what he was doing and that the killer app for Photoshop, computers, and the internet that would come after was sex.
- enneff 2y agoI’m not interested in your hypotheticals when we can just talk about the actual use of the image. Why change the context? At the places I’ve worked it’s been unusual for people to even set a wallpaper and extremely unusual to use some arbitrary image in an email signature (like what??). Maybe you should ask some women that you know what they would think about this actual scenario (not contrived scenarios), rather than presuming.
- mrbluecoat 2y agoLet's try to be civil here. Name calling is unnecessary.
- enneff 2y agoI’m not name calling. They said “maybe I’m a prude,” and I was just confirming it.