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Is that not consistent with how Microsoft always introduced its "features"? Especially all the crap that came since Windows 10/11. First you could still create
by Sol- 2y ago
Is that not consistent with how Microsoft always introduced its "features"? Especially all the crap that came since Windows 10/11.
First you could still create a local account after there was backlash against cloud-everything, nowadays a local only Windows is quite complex to set up.
The Cortana/search bar stuff was also regularly re-enabled or parts of it made non-configurable, with them only occasionally backtracking. Not to speak of the ads that are included nowadays.
Their strategy generally seems to be boiling the frog when it comes to pushing these features onto the users, whether they want it or not.
- rafaelgoncalves 2y agosame thing with the Edge browser for me, i have to remove on every update (he has so much telemetry that is a burden, same with other parts of the SO). This is a testament on the philosophy change between all those years, i used so much win95/98/xp that i loved, the times were so simple...
- hrnnnnnn 2y agoI set up a local only Windows 11 machine recently. 1. Install with throwaway Microsoft account 2. Create new local admin account 3. Use local admin account to delete setup account Not ideal, but not difficult either.
- Gazoche 2y agoUntil the day they remove the option to create a local admin account. Or force you to login into your online account every XX days.
- nolist_policy 2y agoDoesn't sound like a supported configuration to me. Wouldn't surprise me if it breaks one day.
- 7bit 2y agoThat is absolutely a supported configuration. Don't make statements you have zero expertise in.
- paranoidxprod 2y agoYou can also do shift+F10 when a windows install is starting up, then type in `OOBE\BYPASSNRO`. That reboots and allows you to continue without internet and only setting up a local account without needing an online one. Wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft removes this eventually but I do this all the time when setting up new stations for my job.
- ItsBob 2y agoI read recently somewhere that this has been removed in the latest (alpha?) build now... their intention is clear: this install belongs to Microsoft, not you!
- stoobs 2y agoThat's how enterprise installations of windows work, and has always been a fully supported configuration. It's just that they've been hiding it more and more for consumer installations in successive releases.
- jpc0 2y agoAlthough this is still true for AD environments, Microsoft has been pushing Entra ( or whatever they call it these days ) hard and would prefer for that to no longer be the case. It's also been getting harder to actually run on-prem AD at a reasonable price point per user. Effectively, expect even enterprise to be online first with an escape hatch for those customers that need it, obviously only available on E5 or something like that...
- ynik 2y agoYou can still install Windows 11 without a Microsoft account. It requires configuring the installation before you boot from the USB stick. I use https://rufus.ie/en/ https://rufus.ie/en/ when creating bootable USB sticks, and it turns out that this tool detects when you're trying to create a Windows installation medium, and prompts with a list of useful customizations, including "Remove requirement for online Microsoft account". (if you look through the screenshots on the webpage, there's one with the Windows customization dialog box)
- ItsBob 2y agoI've used this many times myself and it works great. However, as I mentioned below, I read something recently that says local account options are being removed in an upcoming version (I can't find the article now). I presume it means the binaries are being removed from the ISO so this may no longer work (except for Enterprise and LTSC I'd imagine).