>Are you sure about that? Both have lots of representation to them. Rocks have their atomic structures and you can easily view this as code. You can also view l

>Are you sure about that? Both have lots of representation to them. Rocks have their atomic structures and you can easily view this as code. You can also view lightning as a representative of the intersection of cloud and ground states. Sure then following OP's model outlined here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41427796 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41427796, rocks are simply conscious of the passage of time. Perhaps it can be said that is the one thing every matter in the universe is conscious of. >The point I'm making is that representation is not enough. Storage (or memory) is not enough even recall is not enough. You don't know what is or isn't enough. And by the way, what 99% of people think of a concept they can scarcely define, test for or prove doesn't mean shit. We are regularly wrong about concepts with much stronger standings. Humans don't have any special insight to consciousness. We can't even make decisions without unknowingly altering our preferences and fabricating reasons in the process. What makes the conscious mind tick was clearly lost along the way. >We need to stop with all the bullshit because I actually want to build AGI No, you want to build the idea of AGI that exists in your mind. Clearly not Artificial General Intelligence seeing as what exists today checks all those boxes.