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Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41404229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41404229 There are reasons to be skeptical of this.
by wmf 2y ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41404229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41404229 There are reasons to be skeptical of this.
- dredmorbius 2y agoYeah. This submission is a clear dupe of that.
- kurthr 2y agoI mean none of the major LLM/DL developers would scrape the entire web (even against robots.txt and paywalls) just to increase the amount of data they could unprofitably train with, because that would expose them to copyright litigation... Oh, wait yeah they did. Frankly, the idea that no app or company is doing this or selling the data would require an enormous conspiracy of secret suppression. The argument that one can't easily hash compressed sound fragments in a way that matches for copyrighted music or generic advertising terms and send that data back linked to a location/ID is sort of laughable.
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- Red_Leaves_Flyy 2y agoIf it’s baked into the firmware of major cell phone manufacturers components how many people would it take? A team of CS engineers at NSA. 1-2 people in privileged positions either at the point of assembly/programming deployment to ensure the code is delivered. - for each company which is basically just alphabet, Samsung, and Apple or their chip providers which is about five companies. This does not seem all that impractical - how many people are dumping firmware from in the wild consumer cellular devices and reverse engineering enough of the code to see if this functionality exists or not? Anyone with that skill is likely making a killing doing other work.