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This discussion is on the brink of doom, but I'll try to contribute anyway. It may be that personality and attention disorders are over-diagnosed because we se

This discussion is on the brink of doom, but I'll try to contribute anyway. It may be that personality and attention disorders are over-diagnosed because we select those away when creating psychologists / psychiatrists, but it does not mean that the attention and behavior disorders are somehow good, either. This really vexes me: > The very characteristics of Einstein that upset authorities so much were exactly the ones that allowed him to excel. Really? Which exactly? You can certainly get a good job and become successful in today's society while harboring a deep-set suspicion of everyone who is in authority. But I do think that it's just harder to succeed in a workplace if you are constantly bucking instructions and only bucking them, based only on principle. If this drive motivates you to learn more and discover why things are the way they are, and come up with better things, you're not necessarily exhibiting those behavioral disorders at all! But the implication all over this article that anti-authoritarianism is by definition a good thing is suspect. (except, I guess, to those who self-identify as anti-authoritarians, usually politically)

AStonesThrow 2y ago
I'd say that my childhood suffered a one-two punch, from problems with my adoptive parents to my tendency to imbibe popular culture from a firehose (radio, TV, records and CDs) Pop culture and social media can really breed discontent and rebellion. I was just trying this weekend to compile a playlist celebrating Labor Day and I realized that I knew of zero songs about a strong work ethic, or loving one's employer, or enjoying the workday, so I ended up adding Johnny Cash's "Legend of John Henry" and "Manic Monday". It used to be that parents could adequately control/monitor influences on children. Not that they would be qualified to do so, but at least you could check out book titles on a kid's bookshelf and ensure that they cultivate good friendships. The unmonitored firehoses of information coming to a typical household now is unmanageable. How does a parent even start? We're closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. Medicating children and diagnosing folks with mental illnesses without addressing root causes, looking at their environments, acknowledging collective responsibility. You might as well round up all fans of "The Simpsons" and sound the Independent Thought Alarm. A nation of rebels looks up to Washington and sees impeachments and raids on the Capitol: are they our role models?
- mafuyu 2y ago
  > I was just trying this weekend to compile a playlist celebrating Labor Day and I realized that I knew of zero songs about a strong work ethic, or loving one's employer, or enjoying the workday You do realize that Labor Day is not about any of those things, right?
  - sushid 2y ago
    I raised an eyebrow reading this part. The irony here is palpable.
  - FooBarBizBazz 2y ago
    I was about to post a Wikipedia link to the Haymarket Square Massacre, but then realized that had more to do with May Day, then thought, "wait, Labor Day and Memorial Day are backwards on the calendar" (Labor Day would most naturally be in May, associated with May Day, no?), then found this explanation: https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is-labor-day-celebrated-in-september https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is-labor-day-celebrated...

AStonesThrow 2y ago

I'd say that my childhood suffered a one-two punch, from problems with my adoptive parents to my tendency to imbibe popular culture from a firehose (radio, TV, records and CDs) Pop culture and social media can really breed discontent and rebellion. I was just trying this weekend to compile a playlist celebrating Labor Day and I realized that I knew of zero songs about a strong work ethic, or loving one's employer, or enjoying the workday, so I ended up adding Johnny Cash's "Legend of John Henry" and "Manic Monday". It used to be that parents could adequately control/monitor influences on children. Not that they would be qualified to do so, but at least you could check out book titles on a kid's bookshelf and ensure that they cultivate good friendships. The unmonitored firehoses of information coming to a typical household now is unmanageable. How does a parent even start? We're closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. Medicating children and diagnosing folks with mental illnesses without addressing root causes, looking at their environments, acknowledging collective responsibility. You might as well round up all fans of "The Simpsons" and sound the Independent Thought Alarm. A nation of rebels looks up to Washington and sees impeachments and raids on the Capitol: are they our role models?

mafuyu 2y ago
> I was just trying this weekend to compile a playlist celebrating Labor Day and I realized that I knew of zero songs about a strong work ethic, or loving one's employer, or enjoying the workday You do realize that Labor Day is not about any of those things, right?
- sushid 2y ago
  I raised an eyebrow reading this part. The irony here is palpable.
- FooBarBizBazz 2y ago
  I was about to post a Wikipedia link to the Haymarket Square Massacre, but then realized that had more to do with May Day, then thought, "wait, Labor Day and Memorial Day are backwards on the calendar" (Labor Day would most naturally be in May, associated with May Day, no?), then found this explanation: https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is-labor-day-celebrated-in-september https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is-labor-day-celebrated...