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He did more business then expected but he did not miss an opportunity to speak ill of china. There were even multiple letters from the Chinese embassy complain

He did more business then expected but he did not miss an opportunity to speak ill of china. There were even multiple letters from the Chinese embassy complaining about stuff he said.. China even blocked buying meat from Brazil for a while with the excuse of mad cow disease.. So regardless of how much business Bolsonaro did with China, he would be more inclined to help Elon in blocking China then the current left wing goverment is..

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diegoholiveira 2y ago
nah, Bolsonaro criticizing China is the same as Lula criticizing the US: they are sending signals to their supporters. Both know that Brazil is not in a position to refuse to do business with China and the US.
- tmottabr 2y ago
  Who said anything about stopping doing business with china?? What i said is that Elon expect that a right wing government would block, difficult or delay this single Chinese company from buying Sigma Lithium to help him to buy it instead.. Australia is doing the same think right now.. Australia is currently the largest exporter of Lithium in the world and Chinese companies tried to buy some mining companies there but the Australian government prohibited.. They said the Lithium mining is too important to the country and that they do not want China to control it.. There is some investigation going that China might have went ahead and acquired the mining companies in Australia indirectly via third-party companies and last i have seen Australia government had ordered those companies to sell their share or else they will seize then.. China is still one of the largest Australia trade partners, that did not stopped it from blocking the mining company acquisition..
  - diegoholiveira 2y ago
    > What i said is that Elon expect that a right wing government would block, difficult or delay this single Chinese company from buying Sigma Lithium to help him to buy it instead.. My point is about this: Musk's expectations will most likely not be met, even with a right wing president. Brazil and China are strong trading partners (and friends nowadays, with Brics became a reality).
    - tmottabr 2y ago
      And what i am saying is that i do not agree with that take.. While a right wing government is not guarantied that Elon will be able to buy Sigma Lithium, i am 100% sure that a right wing government will work to try block or at least delay as much as possible the acquisition by BYD.. Specially in the unlikely case that Trump win the US election, remembering that Elon is supporting him.. US will not only support blocking China from increasing their foothold in the region, they would likely pressure Brazil for it.. It might even happen with Kamala but to a smaller degree..

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diegoholiveira 2y ago

nah, Bolsonaro criticizing China is the same as Lula criticizing the US: they are sending signals to their supporters. Both know that Brazil is not in a position to refuse to do business with China and the US.

tmottabr 2y ago
Who said anything about stopping doing business with china?? What i said is that Elon expect that a right wing government would block, difficult or delay this single Chinese company from buying Sigma Lithium to help him to buy it instead.. Australia is doing the same think right now.. Australia is currently the largest exporter of Lithium in the world and Chinese companies tried to buy some mining companies there but the Australian government prohibited.. They said the Lithium mining is too important to the country and that they do not want China to control it.. There is some investigation going that China might have went ahead and acquired the mining companies in Australia indirectly via third-party companies and last i have seen Australia government had ordered those companies to sell their share or else they will seize then.. China is still one of the largest Australia trade partners, that did not stopped it from blocking the mining company acquisition..
- diegoholiveira 2y ago
  > What i said is that Elon expect that a right wing government would block, difficult or delay this single Chinese company from buying Sigma Lithium to help him to buy it instead.. My point is about this: Musk's expectations will most likely not be met, even with a right wing president. Brazil and China are strong trading partners (and friends nowadays, with Brics became a reality).
  - tmottabr 2y ago
    And what i am saying is that i do not agree with that take.. While a right wing government is not guarantied that Elon will be able to buy Sigma Lithium, i am 100% sure that a right wing government will work to try block or at least delay as much as possible the acquisition by BYD.. Specially in the unlikely case that Trump win the US election, remembering that Elon is supporting him.. US will not only support blocking China from increasing their foothold in the region, they would likely pressure Brazil for it.. It might even happen with Kamala but to a smaller degree..