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Maryland Health Secretary halted ketogenic diet study for treating schizophrenia

9 points by arijo 2y ago

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OutOfHere 2y ago
Fwiw, the ketogenic diet is not safe as per these studies: 1. Ketogenic diets inhibit mitochondrial biogenesis and induce cardiac fibrosis (2021) (PMID 33558457) 2. Ketogenic diet induces p53-dependent cellular senescence in multiple organs (2024) (PMID 38758782) --- Even so, given what little is shared, I strongly feel that this study should NOT have been halted without a very good reason. We know that a ketogenic diet is relevant for epilepsy, and that's sufficient motivation to study it for schizophrenia.
- arijo 2y ago
  Please do not say "kettogenic diet is not safe" just because you found a couple of articles on the web. I would encorage everyone to take a look at the metabolic mind site - https://www.metabolicmind.org/ https://www.metabolicmind.org/ (youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@metabolicmind https://www.youtube.com/@metabolicmind). Extensive presentation from Dr. Dom D'Agostino - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=metabolic+mind+agostino/ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=metabolic+mind+... Do not trust opinions on the web, do your own research and aproach everything critically - fact based medicine, not voice of authority matter here. I have been following the ketogenic diet for about 2 months and I feel significantly better than before starting it - this is not medical advice, each one of us will have to learn about this medical intervention and decide what's best for him or her.
  - OutOfHere 2y ago
    > a couple of articles on the web It is not clear that you even know the difference between "a couple of articles on the web" and research studies, with me having posted the latter, and you having posted the former. (I am not against the ketogenic diet for its neurological uses.)
    - arijo 2y ago
      These YouTube videos contain medical information produced by professional researchers - please don’t assume I’m stupid.
      - OutOfHere 2y ago
        Why not just share the applicable medical literature directly?
        arijo 2y ago
        That’s a little too pompous don’t you think?
        OutOfHere 2y ago
        It depends on the target audience: If non-technical, then YouTube videos and blog posts help them. If semi-technical or mixed, then the press release or a news article is a good middle ground. If technical, then the full-text of the study is good. If technical and busy, then just the abstract of the study is good.
        pookybear223 2y ago
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9 points by arijo 2y ago

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Fwiw, the ketogenic diet is not safe as per these studies: 1. Ketogenic diets inhibit mitochondrial biogenesis and induce cardiac fibrosis (2021) (PMID 33558457) 2. Ketogenic diet induces p53-dependent cellular senescence in multiple organs (2024) (PMID 38758782) --- Even so, given what little is shared, I strongly feel that this study should NOT have been halted without a very good reason. We know that a ketogenic diet is relevant for epilepsy, and that's sufficient motivation to study it for schizophrenia.

arijo 2y ago
Please do not say "kettogenic diet is not safe" just because you found a couple of articles on the web. I would encorage everyone to take a look at the metabolic mind site - https://www.metabolicmind.org/ https://www.metabolicmind.org/ (youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@metabolicmind https://www.youtube.com/@metabolicmind). Extensive presentation from Dr. Dom D'Agostino - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=metabolic+mind+agostino/ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=metabolic+mind+... Do not trust opinions on the web, do your own research and aproach everything critically - fact based medicine, not voice of authority matter here. I have been following the ketogenic diet for about 2 months and I feel significantly better than before starting it - this is not medical advice, each one of us will have to learn about this medical intervention and decide what's best for him or her.
- OutOfHere 2y ago
  > a couple of articles on the web It is not clear that you even know the difference between "a couple of articles on the web" and research studies, with me having posted the latter, and you having posted the former. (I am not against the ketogenic diet for its neurological uses.)
  - arijo 2y ago
    These YouTube videos contain medical information produced by professional researchers - please don’t assume I’m stupid.
    - OutOfHere 2y ago
      Why not just share the applicable medical literature directly?
      - arijo 2y ago
        That’s a little too pompous don’t you think?
        OutOfHere 2y ago
        It depends on the target audience: If non-technical, then YouTube videos and blog posts help them. If semi-technical or mixed, then the press release or a news article is a good middle ground. If technical, then the full-text of the study is good. If technical and busy, then just the abstract of the study is good.
        pookybear223 2y ago
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