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I absolutely love my job. I just also love everything else in my life. The productivity difference of 30 vs 40 hours is not that big, but the difference it woul

by hungie 2y ago

I absolutely love my job. I just also love everything else in my life. The productivity difference of 30 vs 40 hours is not that big, but the difference it would make to my life is monumental.

itake 2y ago
The productivity difference I think is controversial. Some (most?) of the biggest tech companies have a grind culture. If working 60 hours per week isn’t productive, why is Apple, Tesla, Netflix, etc so successful? I’ve had the full range of experiences (full time work or 20-30 hours of freelance work) and they are just different, not necessarily better
- piva00 2y ago
  > If working 60 hours per week isn’t productive, why is Apple, Tesla, Netflix, etc so successful? Why do you think that just the amount of hours worked per week dictate how successful a whole company is? You are focusing on one very basic metric to derive a very complex conclusion...
  - itake 2y ago
    Maybe it’s survivorship bias, but why do most famous tech and finance companies have this trait in common?
    - hungie 2y ago
      Google doesn't? Heck, I worked at Amazon, and never more than 40 hours. I don't think it's axiomatic.
    - piva00 2y ago
      I think it's your bias through third hand accounts instead of reality, have you ever worked at any of the famous tech companies? Finance is a completely different beast, and even there many of the big ones don't overwork their employees with 60+ hours/week.
      - itake 2y ago
        I have family that work at Apple and Amazon. Both Apple family say its a grind (especially with frequent multi-week trips to china). The amazon family member says it depends on which team you're on. All these tech companies are RTO, on-call schedules, and "high seasons" (Prime Day, product release days, etc.).
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
  > The productivity difference I think is controversial. Sure. The diminishing labor returns (from fewer rest days) are less expensive than onboarding sufficient personnel. But the most sensical understanding of worker productivity is that it slopes downward as the number of consecutive workdays stretches onward. Productivity trends higher at 30 hours than it does is at 40 hours.

by hungie 2y ago

I absolutely love my job. I just also love everything else in my life. The productivity difference of 30 vs 40 hours is not that big, but the difference it would make to my life is monumental.

itake 2y ago

The productivity difference I think is controversial. Some (most?) of the biggest tech companies have a grind culture. If working 60 hours per week isn’t productive, why is Apple, Tesla, Netflix, etc so successful? I’ve had the full range of experiences (full time work or 20-30 hours of freelance work) and they are just different, not necessarily better

piva00 2y ago
> If working 60 hours per week isn’t productive, why is Apple, Tesla, Netflix, etc so successful? Why do you think that just the amount of hours worked per week dictate how successful a whole company is? You are focusing on one very basic metric to derive a very complex conclusion...
- itake 2y ago
  Maybe it’s survivorship bias, but why do most famous tech and finance companies have this trait in common?
  - hungie 2y ago
    Google doesn't? Heck, I worked at Amazon, and never more than 40 hours. I don't think it's axiomatic.
  - piva00 2y ago
    I think it's your bias through third hand accounts instead of reality, have you ever worked at any of the famous tech companies? Finance is a completely different beast, and even there many of the big ones don't overwork their employees with 60+ hours/week.
    - itake 2y ago
      I have family that work at Apple and Amazon. Both Apple family say its a grind (especially with frequent multi-week trips to china). The amazon family member says it depends on which team you're on. All these tech companies are RTO, on-call schedules, and "high seasons" (Prime Day, product release days, etc.).
WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
> The productivity difference I think is controversial. Sure. The diminishing labor returns (from fewer rest days) are less expensive than onboarding sufficient personnel. But the most sensical understanding of worker productivity is that it slopes downward as the number of consecutive workdays stretches onward. Productivity trends higher at 30 hours than it does is at 40 hours.