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Jennifer in paradise: the story of the first Photoshopped image (2014)
- rjsw 2y agoA recent Reddit thread [1] has some pictures of the Pixar Image Computer mentioned in the article. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/1f3lzru/pixar_image_computer/ https://old.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/1f3lzr...
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- halper 2y agoNo, it will not do! It looks way too peaceful and pleasant, not at all conducive to inspiring to endless hours in the cubicle.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoWhy didn't they demo it on photoshopping a group of happy office employees shaking hands and pointing at whiteboards? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_d5jWvBirU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_d5jWvBirU
- Dalewyn 2y agoIt's definitely a relic of a simpler, more fun era. I miss it.
- testfoobar 2y agoI miss it too. What I find strange is that almost no conversation is taboo now regarding sex, gender, sexual health, etc. This is certainly progress. At the same time it seems as if attraction, flirting, and sexuality has all now seemingly become verboten.
- prmoustache 2y agoI don't even understand why people bring the subject of sexuality here. There is nothing remotely sexual in that photo.
- eigenket 2y agoTheres pretty much exactly as much that is sexual about the Lenna image. Its still not appropriate in the workplace or in research. For a start using images like this has obvious and widely negative impacts on women entering your field https://www.cmc.edu/news/every-picture-tells-a-story https://www.cmc.edu/news/every-picture-tells-a-story https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-playboy-centerfold-does-not-belong-in-tj-classrooms/2015/04/24/76e87fa4-e47a-11e4-81ea-0649268f729e_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-playboy-centerfold...
- enneff 2y agoYeah except the Lenna image is from a porno magazine, a photograph of a model styled and posed specifically to create an erotic image. How can you not see a difference here?
- guenthert 2y ago> It's definitely a relic of a simpler, more fun era. "... photograph, taken in 1987 ..."
- DoesntMatter22 2y agoSure. That was over 35 years ago. Which is older than the average age of most people alive today
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- Cthulhu_ 2y agoYeah but don't call it a relic because that'll make me feel old :(
- Dalewyn 2y agoAs a 35 year old geezer: That's 37 years ago, you insensitive clod!
- DoesntMatter22 2y agoDon't worry man, I'm about to be 43...
- noduerme 2y agoWhat typifies the current era is the new morality police finding reason to tisk-tisk at even the most prosaic things, if they can be first in line to point out a reason something is not PC. One would have thought the new Victorianism would get dull by now, and there's certainly been some backlash against it, but it seems like a gestalt that won't die easily.
- caslon 2y agoThere's nothing sexualised about it. The person is of an ambiguous build and facing away from the camera. The article does more sexualising than the photo itself does, in the typical way that British media likes to oversexualise and play scandal to sell papers.
- fsckboy 2y ago>The person is of an ambiguous build wut? ambiguous on what dimension? That's a brick shithouse right there. (how's that slang for you, ESL learners!? it's definitely not an insult, and it's unisex so, not offensive, just means "good build")
- quietbritishjim 2y ago> brick shithouse... just means "good build" No, it means an exceptionally muscular build, which the subject of that photo doesn't have. Anyway, the comment you're replying to clearly means "a build that leaves the gender ambiguous", not that the dimensions are ambiguous! You don't seem to really be disagreeing with that.
- cafard 2y ago> it means an exceptionally muscular build In what dialect of English?
- defrost 2y agoWell built usually, built better than expected, overbuilt, solid. Jeffersonian, 'Straylin, British. Here's Thomas Jefferson's Brick Shithouse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poplar_Forest6.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poplar_Forest6.jpg
- quietbritishjim 2y agoThis is south London. But also, it's just obvious from the words in the phrase. I assume that outside toilets were often just wooden shacks, so a brick one is notable for its robustness. Is that comparible with a beefy labourer's physique? Sure. Is comparible to a curvy, classically feminine body shape? That doesn't make sense. As the sibling comment to this one says, it doesn't even just apply to people (in fact I'd say it primarily doesn't).
- shooshx 2y ago> My husband actually proposed to me later on in the day, probably just after that photo Wait did he propose to her while topless?
- killingtime74 2y agoHe's topless, she's topless, all very natural. It's a beach!
- hooli_gan 2y agoThis is an outrage /s
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoImagine seeing your partner without clothes on, couldn't be me.
- layer8 2y agoNot “while”, but “because”. ;)
- darkwater 2y agoWait, what? What is sexual in this photo?
- pavlov 2y agoAmericans are extremely prude.
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- RicoElectrico 2y agoEven worse, this spilled into Europe during the last decade.
- Gud 2y agoIt did? Not where I live(Zürich).
- Rinzler89 2y agoMaybe not in terms of prudeness, but American wokeism, social issues, cultural norms, identity politics and cancel culture are definitely spilling in Europe as well. Probably due to most large social media platforms and entertainment content being from there, so their rules and social norms get imported here along with the content like the Colorado potato beetle, instead of being adapted to the local market and local culture, the way McDonald's is in France for example.
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- kaycey2022 2y agoIt took me too long to realise that I can skip this whole conversation by pressing the - button. FYI fellows. But once I did, there are no other comments left to read.
- lelanthran 2y agoPity they don't have the "before" photo, so we can see what the photoshop effort added.
- boomboomsubban 2y agoI believe that is the "before" photo, he would then do things like create a duplicate of her or change the background as an example.
- pimlottc 2y agoThere’s an example of him manipulating this photo in the linked demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tda7jCwvSzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tda7jCwvSzg
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- rwmj 2y agoI remember being amazed by this 1986 documentary, where David Hockney uses a Quantel Paintbox to do digital painting & image manipulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-JpI4egl2o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-JpI4egl2o https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantel_Paintbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantel_Paintbox
- nickt 2y agoThanks for that, I remember watching it when broadcast and being amazed by the possibilities. I hadn’t thought about it in years.
- vundercind 2y agoOh my god. The demo video using the super-early version of Photoshop just taught me several things the lasso and magic wand tools can do in combo that I’ve never known, despite a lot of time using them over the years.
- amatecha 2y agoIt's hilarious to see all the comments on the video[0] exclaiming at how advanced Photoshop 1.0 was. Indeed, it was a huge advancement in graphics editing at the time, and computers "back then" were capable of quite a lot of stuff. I think if everyone got stuck using a desktop computer from the 90's for a while they'd realize just how little has changed since then (or how much has been just slight iteration) :) [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tda7jCwvSzg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tda7jCwvSzg
- vundercind 2y agoIt’s truly depressing that almost none of the reasons that 512MB is no longer a luxurious amount of memory have to do with software being more capable and useful than it used to be.
- sandworm101 2y agoIt is a photo that lends itself to photoshopping. Wide vista with distinct objects that do not interact. Solid borders between objects (horizon, green island on blue sky). Blocks of relatively homogenous texture. A near total lack of shadows, with the only one visible conveniently blurred by shallow water. And a subject exotic/remote enough that most people will not recognize any inconsistencies. It is so open to editing that I could believe it was built from scratch.
- burningChrome 2y agoFor me, this is the most important point of the article: And although, as Knoll is quick to point out, photos were being altered long ago in Soviet Russia, it was only Photoshop that democratised that ability. In a way Jennifer was the last person to sit on solid ground, gazing out into an infinitely fluid sea of zeros and ones, the last woman to inhabit a world where the camera never lied. We now live in a world where anything we see, we hear, or speak is never taken on its value any more. You can have a picture of you standing next to Kim Kardashian and everybody will wonder if its actually you standing next to her - or did you manipulate the photo? You can watch a video and we now wonder if what we're seeing is actually real or not. This photo was the last off ramp to a reality where nothing truly is what it seems anymore. I never thought or could imagine the world I currently reside in.
- somat 2y agoCameras have always lied. you are viewing a narrow slice of reality frozen in time. this slice has been carefully constructed by the author to show a specific thing. What is the author not showing, what was deliberately left out of the slice? The biggest lie is that there is no lie. https://petapixel.com/2012/10/01/famous-valley-of-the-shadow-of-death-photo-was-most-likely-staged/ https://petapixel.com/2012/10/01/famous-valley-of-the-shadow... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies
- indrora 2y agoWhen I was in high school, I was taught basic darkroom techniques for altering film postfacto -- even doing so without doing a negative transfer -- by an old artist friend of mine. If you're willing to do some basic home chemistry, you can do quite a few things to film during development that will alter in predictable ways the outcome; a favorite of mine is that adding a small amount of buffer solution into your developer and stop bath at the right time can adjust the light curves, which can turn a nighttime photo into a daytime photo if you do it right.
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- diggan 2y agoRelated: "Lenna" - A pretty much de facto standard image for testing image editing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna (and a personal story behind the image: http://www.lenna.org/ http://www.lenna.org/)