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This is hilarious and perfectly sums up my experience with Mac developers. Half of them have no idea Docker Desktop actually installs a Linux VM. They think how

This is hilarious and perfectly sums up my experience with Mac developers. Half of them have no idea Docker Desktop actually installs a Linux VM. They think how amazing their incredibly expensive system is, yet it's mostly a glorified text editor. The WSL experience on Windows convinced me buying a MacOS machine makes no sense.

saagarjha 2y ago
Glad the humor landed
eropple 2y ago
So I use WSL2 regularly on Windows, but I don't agree at all that buying a Mac doesn't make sense. WSL2 is great, and Windows 10/11 are fine after doing some cleanup...on a desktop. My experience with Windows on even modern laptops is pretty bad. It's very hard to find something with the build quality and affordances of a Mac. Razer makes a good machine but tbh I'd be embarrassed to bring one to a meeting, and I don't like how newer Thinkpads feel and I don't trust Framework to exist in a few years. It's then complicated while seeking reasonably comparable specs--and I'm not a "oh Apple Silicon sounds warmer" sort of person, amd64 is just fine with me, but AMD's high-end IGPs generally keep pace with base-model Macbooks, and start to fall behind pretty significantly when you move up to a Pro or a Max. You can add a discrete GPU, but, me, I like battery life, and mobile dGPUs are a mess of compromises anyway. Even if you get over that hurdle, I think Windows feels bad when you're using a touchpad. They haven't cracked that one despite how long they've had to work on it. I wouldn't want to work on a Windows laptop without an external trackball; I carry one with my Mac but rarely use it unless I'm going to be working for a pretty long stretch and I want to save my hands. Windows is still generally my pick for desktops for a lot of reasons (I don't even dual-boot Linux right now!) but this kind of sneering is weird and uncalled-for.
baq 2y ago
Macs have great hardware (as in, great display and a great touchpad - and the best thing is the computer wakes from sleep when you open the lid, every time; I don't particularly care about the M-series except that it runs super duper cool for how fast it is). That said I've been tooting the horn that they are not good software development machines for about 2 years now (incidentally matches exactly with when I got a work macbook pro).

saagarjha 2y ago

Glad the humor landed

eropple 2y ago

So I use WSL2 regularly on Windows, but I don't agree at all that buying a Mac doesn't make sense. WSL2 is great, and Windows 10/11 are fine after doing some cleanup...on a desktop. My experience with Windows on even modern laptops is pretty bad. It's very hard to find something with the build quality and affordances of a Mac. Razer makes a good machine but tbh I'd be embarrassed to bring one to a meeting, and I don't like how newer Thinkpads feel and I don't trust Framework to exist in a few years. It's then complicated while seeking reasonably comparable specs--and I'm not a "oh Apple Silicon sounds warmer" sort of person, amd64 is just fine with me, but AMD's high-end IGPs generally keep pace with base-model Macbooks, and start to fall behind pretty significantly when you move up to a Pro or a Max. You can add a discrete GPU, but, me, I like battery life, and mobile dGPUs are a mess of compromises anyway. Even if you get over that hurdle, I think Windows feels bad when you're using a touchpad. They haven't cracked that one despite how long they've had to work on it. I wouldn't want to work on a Windows laptop without an external trackball; I carry one with my Mac but rarely use it unless I'm going to be working for a pretty long stretch and I want to save my hands. Windows is still generally my pick for desktops for a lot of reasons (I don't even dual-boot Linux right now!) but this kind of sneering is weird and uncalled-for.

baq 2y ago

Macs have great hardware (as in, great display and a great touchpad - and the best thing is the computer wakes from sleep when you open the lid, every time; I don't particularly care about the M-series except that it runs super duper cool for how fast it is). That said I've been tooting the horn that they are not good software development machines for about 2 years now (incidentally matches exactly with when I got a work macbook pro).