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> Human creativity and the good it offers to society cannot be replicated by a machine. No matter how advanced AI systems become, it is not likely that they wil

> Human creativity and the good it offers to society cannot be replicated by a machine. No matter how advanced AI systems become, it is not likely that they will ever be able to think like a person. The story of computers since their inception has been a series of statements of this form being proven wrong. Up until not very long ago telling a random person you worked in AI reliably produced a very skeptic response or a look of disbelief. (In my experience.) We are naturally human centric in our thinking. But the rest of this century is going to require we face & work with reality, not against it. Making every advance in AI as usable for as many people as possible, and in service of their own initiatives, instead of replacing and channeling people is important. There is no reason “post-human” needs to mean the end of humans, as apposed to the future of humans. Unless we keep settling for tech that dehumanizes us. In which case, we bifurcate and the human race suffers from a very “hard landing”. Ethics, positive sums, transparency, on ramps, that all means more now than it ever has.

bamboozled 2y ago
If you think about how we've handled climate change, then we're fucked, because what I'm reading from you is it's going to take. 1) Co-ordination on a massive scale. 2) Honesty and integrity on all political fronts, including between hostile nations. 3) Uncompromising forward thinking and planning. Yes I know I'm negative, but people who expect some type of solution to come in the form of organization, are deluded IMO. The only saving grace for me is that we lack a lot of imagination about what the future will actually look like and so the AI takeover scenarios, and worthless humans hypothesis are not really what happens, we don't really know what will happen.
- bufferoverflow 2y ago
  No. If things get really bad, pretty much everyone will want to fix them. And as far as temperatures go, it's not even that expensive to fix - block/reflect some of the sun at scale. Cover some deserts in cheap mirror material is probably the cheapest way to do this. USA alone can afford to do that. The expensive part is taking CO2 out of the atmosphere. But if the temperatures are back to normal (whatever "normal" we choose), then CO2 is less of an issue.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    No. If things get really bad, pretty much everyone will want to fix them. And as far as temperatures go, it's not even that expensive to fix - block/reflect some of the sun at scale. Cover some deserts in cheap mirror material is probably the cheapest way to do this. USA alone can afford to do that. Things are really bad for some people already, does the things you describe start to happen when they get bad for you specifically ?
    - bufferoverflow 2y ago
      They will start to happen when things get bad on a large scale. Right now they are not bad on a large scale.
      - bamboozled 2y ago
        It's going to be too late then, we can't just pull off these massive engineering projects with crop failures in the background.
        bufferoverflow 2y ago
        Crop failures won't just happen all at once. It's a gradual process. We will have plenty of time to react.
        bamboozled 2y ago
        How quickly do you think we can cool the Earth off to stop crop failure issues from propagating even faster, assuming we've not already trigger some pretty decent feedback loops?

bamboozled 2y ago

If you think about how we've handled climate change, then we're fucked, because what I'm reading from you is it's going to take. 1) Co-ordination on a massive scale. 2) Honesty and integrity on all political fronts, including between hostile nations. 3) Uncompromising forward thinking and planning. Yes I know I'm negative, but people who expect some type of solution to come in the form of organization, are deluded IMO. The only saving grace for me is that we lack a lot of imagination about what the future will actually look like and so the AI takeover scenarios, and worthless humans hypothesis are not really what happens, we don't really know what will happen.

bufferoverflow 2y ago
No. If things get really bad, pretty much everyone will want to fix them. And as far as temperatures go, it's not even that expensive to fix - block/reflect some of the sun at scale. Cover some deserts in cheap mirror material is probably the cheapest way to do this. USA alone can afford to do that. The expensive part is taking CO2 out of the atmosphere. But if the temperatures are back to normal (whatever "normal" we choose), then CO2 is less of an issue.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  No. If things get really bad, pretty much everyone will want to fix them. And as far as temperatures go, it's not even that expensive to fix - block/reflect some of the sun at scale. Cover some deserts in cheap mirror material is probably the cheapest way to do this. USA alone can afford to do that. Things are really bad for some people already, does the things you describe start to happen when they get bad for you specifically ?
  - bufferoverflow 2y ago
    They will start to happen when things get bad on a large scale. Right now they are not bad on a large scale.
    - bamboozled 2y ago
      It's going to be too late then, we can't just pull off these massive engineering projects with crop failures in the background.
      - bufferoverflow 2y ago
        Crop failures won't just happen all at once. It's a gradual process. We will have plenty of time to react.
        bamboozled 2y ago
        How quickly do you think we can cool the Earth off to stop crop failure issues from propagating even faster, assuming we've not already trigger some pretty decent feedback loops?