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Because public (voters) don't care enough. Like, did you file a police report? Did you film the police officer doing nothing? Did you sue the police for not doi

Because public (voters) don't care enough. Like, did you file a police report? Did you film the police officer doing nothing? Did you sue the police for not doing their duty? And no one did, because no one cares enough. There are more pleasant things to do, e.g. online.

wnoise 2y ago
You're never going to win a suit against policemen not doing their duty. * https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9108468254125174344&q=warren-v-district-of-columbia&hl=en&as_sdt=2006 https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=910846825412517... * https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/545/748.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/545/748.h...
- deepsun 2y ago
  The point is not winning. The point is keeping checks, and publicity. Knowing they might get sued, even winning, is enough. How they are gonna talk to their neighbors who read about that case in a local newspaper? But the more people say "you're never gonna win" -- the less people care, coming to the current situation.
HideousKojima 2y ago
>Did you sue the police for not doing their duty? What duty? Let alone one that the average citizen has standing to sue them over?
oneshtein 2y ago
Who paid for the police job? Who will do the police job? Who will have problems with police and law because of the job? Can you calculate risk/reward for police and for volunteer?
- deepsun 2y ago
  Yes, but democracy is not a system that can be set up well and let it run. It needs constant monitoring and maintenance.
  - ein0p 2y ago
    This is not “democracy”. People don’t want this, and therefore the will of the people is being ignored. It’s just that all candidates they can realistically elect in Seattle are OK with it, or worse. Why, I have no idea.
ein0p 2y ago
Many people do not know this, but police has no duty to protect you. At all. I’m not joking: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columb....
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Well in SF we have been made apathetic to filing reports by YEARS of soft on crime policies. Like prosecutors simply releasing repeat criminals, who go on to victimize everyone all over again. The only value to filing a report is insurance - but who is going to pay the deductible for something stolen out of your car that is worth less than the deductible? I personally don’t blame the officers at all - I blame the state legislators, city leaders, and city attorney offices.

wnoise 2y ago

You're never going to win a suit against policemen not doing their duty. * https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9108468254125174344&q=warren-v-district-of-columbia&hl=en&as_sdt=2006 https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=910846825412517... * https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/545/748.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/545/748.h...

deepsun 2y ago
The point is not winning. The point is keeping checks, and publicity. Knowing they might get sued, even winning, is enough. How they are gonna talk to their neighbors who read about that case in a local newspaper? But the more people say "you're never gonna win" -- the less people care, coming to the current situation.

HideousKojima 2y ago

>Did you sue the police for not doing their duty? What duty? Let alone one that the average citizen has standing to sue them over?

oneshtein 2y ago

Who paid for the police job? Who will do the police job? Who will have problems with police and law because of the job? Can you calculate risk/reward for police and for volunteer?

deepsun 2y ago
Yes, but democracy is not a system that can be set up well and let it run. It needs constant monitoring and maintenance.
- ein0p 2y ago
  This is not “democracy”. People don’t want this, and therefore the will of the people is being ignored. It’s just that all candidates they can realistically elect in Seattle are OK with it, or worse. Why, I have no idea.

ein0p 2y ago

Many people do not know this, but police has no duty to protect you. At all. I’m not joking: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columb....

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

Well in SF we have been made apathetic to filing reports by YEARS of soft on crime policies. Like prosecutors simply releasing repeat criminals, who go on to victimize everyone all over again. The only value to filing a report is insurance - but who is going to pay the deductible for something stolen out of your car that is worth less than the deductible? I personally don’t blame the officers at all - I blame the state legislators, city leaders, and city attorney offices.