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Alright, I'll respond. >Not every person is able-bodied enough to walk and bike And the same goes for cars, except kids can ride bikes, so car accessibility i
by amrocha 2y ago
Alright, I'll respond.
>Not every person is able-bodied enough to walk and bike
And the same goes for cars, except kids can ride bikes, so car accessibility is actually just worse.
>Also, people happen to need to get from A to B when it is cold, dark, raining, extremely hot, snowing, or just some kind of shitty outside
You can walk or cycle in all of those conditions. In fact, I have walked or cycled in all of those conditions in the past 6 months.
>People need to drive to a store for food or supplies that cannot be carried or biked back to the destination
There's very little that can't be carried on a bike or public transport, but you can always rent a car for a couple hours if needed. Let's be real, that's not why 99.9% of people are driving cars.
>People have multiple children that simply cannot walk or bike
Where I live it's common to see mothers cycle with their kids on child seats in their bikes.
>Old people cannot simply walk or bike.
And a lot of them can't drive either.
- dgfitz 2y ago> You can walk or cycle in all of those conditions. YOU can do that, sure. You need to look past your own nose to objectively weigh in on these topics.
- amrocha 2y agoThe vast majority of trips are taken by foot or bicycle where I am. Statistically speaking, YOU can do it too.
- dgfitz 2y agoThe fuck do you think “statistically speaking” actually means? Your anecdote of 1 does not a statistic make.
- amrocha 2y agoMy "anecdote" is the fact that I live in Tokyo where we get extreme weather regularly and yet the vast majority of trips are taken by public transport, walking or biking.
- dgfitz 2y agoStop pretending the rest of the world is like Tokyo, it isn’t.
- amrocha 2y agoThe rest of the world can be like Tokyo, that's the important part. Weather is not a good enough reason for why we need cars in cities.
- dgfitz 2y agoNo, it’s can’t. Full stop, end of argument. You clearly are not well-traveled if you believe this.
- therealdrag0 2y agoWhy not? What is so special about Tokyo/Japanese that it can’t be emulated?
- dgfitz 2y agoI can’t bro, it’s not worth my time. Look it up.
- therealdrag0 2y agoI don’t even know what to look up.
- dgfitz 2y agoYou could start with a list of things the rest of the world would need in order to emulate Tokyo, which basically means turning the entire world into a walk-able city only involving the temperate band hf the planet. If you would like me to hold your hand though generating this list of material and labor costs, I'm not going to do that. If you want me to put on a PM hat and give you a sample schedule and estimated costs, I'm not going to do that either. If you can't even figure out how to look up _anything_ about how to implement your plan, how the fuck do you expect it to ever become a reality? This is nonsense. It will not happen.
- CRConrad 2y ago> The fuck do you think “statistically speaking” actually means? I think it means "The vast majority of trips are taken by foot or bicycle where I am." Which was, from another (very) nearby comment, Tokyo. > Your anecdote of 1 does not a statistic make. No, but the vast majority of trips in Tokyo does.
- bradfox2 2y agoAnd where I live it's 110F+ for three months of the year. No one sane is biking or walking anywhere as it's too dangerous. Not everyone lives in some temperate small European city.
- amrocha 2y agoFirst off, you're exaggerating. There is no place on earth that averages 40C for 3 months. Second,I live in Tokyo, where the summer has been miserable with average temperatures of 32C, with regular highs of 36+ with 80% humidity. And yet I walked and biked everywhere and was just fine, and that's true for most of the 40M people that live here as well. Third, it sounds like you live in a place that's not suitable for humans, you should probably move instead of making the planet even hotter for everyone else by living in your steel boxes with AC.
- dgfitz 2y ago> Second,I live in Tokyo And this is where you need to remember that the rest of the world is not Tokyo. I have faith you’ll get there.