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Easy fix: If you want less of something, tax it. The race to ever bigger vehicles has many costs, from road wear to (now we know) human lives. You pay an annua

Easy fix: If you want less of something, tax it. The race to ever bigger vehicles has many costs, from road wear to (now we know) human lives. You pay an annual registration fee for your vehicle. Make that fee go up dramatically for heavier vehicles. If you pay, say, $100 for a car under a ton, make it $1k for up to two tons, $10k for 3 tons, etc..

unstatusthequo 2y ago
I am so tired of the comments where “tax it more” is the only solution to problems. I think we should tax posters who suggest this. Then we’d have less of those comments. Win win!
coliveira 2y ago
They know how to avoid this, because heavy autos are considered utility vehicles. They'll claim this is bad for the economy because small companies need access to utility vehicles.
- AstralJaeger 2y ago
  This could simply be avoided by introducing a similar model to how it is handled over here in europe, with different vehicle classes and weight limits, a higher weight class requires a more advanced drivers license. Certain utlilty vehicles 3.5t and over can't be driven here without a D class license, which costs extra, requires extra training and the tax and fee structure for these vehicles is drastically different. Usually, these heavier vehicles also pay higher toll fees on toll roads like in France, Spain, Austria, Italy, etc. In Austria higher engine power vehicles also cost more on a monthly basis, while registration is a 150€ one time fee, monthly insurance and tax can be around 150€ for a 200hp ice vehicle, even just a Ford Fiesta.
  - bradfox2 2y ago
    There are already different classes of licensing in the US for larger industrial vehicles.
    - AstralJaeger 2y ago
      > for larger industrial vehicles See, thats where the difference is, here 3.5t is considered a bigger vehicle with few exceptions. Most campers are close or overweight for the normal B class license.
- therealdrag0 2y ago
  Tax deduction if you need it for business so it’s not a burden, just like lots of other existing taxes.
energy123 2y ago
That has the unintended side effect of penalizing EVs. You'd want a weight penalty, but separate ones for ICE and hybrid and EV.
- bradley13 2y ago
  That isn't unintended at all. A 3-ton EV will kill someone just as surely as a 3-ton diesel.
swarnie 2y ago
Cool, do what lots of places do and tax based on emissions. It wont penalise EVs while also encouraging people and makers to produce less ridiculous cars. You dont need a 5.3l V8 which does 16 miles to the Gallon to sit in freeway traffic.

unstatusthequo 2y ago

I am so tired of the comments where “tax it more” is the only solution to problems. I think we should tax posters who suggest this. Then we’d have less of those comments. Win win!

coliveira 2y ago

They know how to avoid this, because heavy autos are considered utility vehicles. They'll claim this is bad for the economy because small companies need access to utility vehicles.

AstralJaeger 2y ago
This could simply be avoided by introducing a similar model to how it is handled over here in europe, with different vehicle classes and weight limits, a higher weight class requires a more advanced drivers license. Certain utlilty vehicles 3.5t and over can't be driven here without a D class license, which costs extra, requires extra training and the tax and fee structure for these vehicles is drastically different. Usually, these heavier vehicles also pay higher toll fees on toll roads like in France, Spain, Austria, Italy, etc. In Austria higher engine power vehicles also cost more on a monthly basis, while registration is a 150€ one time fee, monthly insurance and tax can be around 150€ for a 200hp ice vehicle, even just a Ford Fiesta.
- bradfox2 2y ago
  There are already different classes of licensing in the US for larger industrial vehicles.
  - AstralJaeger 2y ago
    > for larger industrial vehicles See, thats where the difference is, here 3.5t is considered a bigger vehicle with few exceptions. Most campers are close or overweight for the normal B class license.
therealdrag0 2y ago
Tax deduction if you need it for business so it’s not a burden, just like lots of other existing taxes.

energy123 2y ago

That has the unintended side effect of penalizing EVs. You'd want a weight penalty, but separate ones for ICE and hybrid and EV.

bradley13 2y ago
That isn't unintended at all. A 3-ton EV will kill someone just as surely as a 3-ton diesel.

swarnie 2y ago

Cool, do what lots of places do and tax based on emissions. It wont penalise EVs while also encouraging people and makers to produce less ridiculous cars. You dont need a 5.3l V8 which does 16 miles to the Gallon to sit in freeway traffic.