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I am from Europe and I am not completely sure about that to be honest. I also prefer programming. I also dislike software development as it reminds me of devel

by atoav 2y ago

I am from Europe and I am not completely sure about that to be honest. I also prefer programming. I also dislike software development as it reminds me of developing a photograhic negative – like "oh let's check out how the software we developed came out". It should be software engineering and it should be held to a similar standard as other engineering fields if it isn't done in a non-professional context.

mdp2021 2y ago
> software development Wrong angle. There is a problem, your consideration of the problem, the refinement of your solution to the problem: the solution gradually unfolds - it is developed.
reichstein 2y ago
The word "development" can mean several things. I don't think "software development" sounds bad when grouped with a phrase like "urban development". It describes growing and tuning software for, well, working better, solving more needs, and with fewer failure modes. I do agree that a "coder" creates code, and a programmer creates programs. I expect more of a complete program than of a bunch of code. If a text says "coder", it does set an expectation about the professionalism of the text. And I expect even more from a software solution created by a software engineer. At least a specification! Still, I, a professional software engineer and programmer, also write "code" for throwaway scripts, or just for myself, or that never gets completed. Or for fun. I will read articles by and for coders too. The word is a signal. It's neither good nor bad, but If that's not the signal the author wants to send, they should work on their communication.
- mdp2021 2y ago
  > If that's not the signal the author wants to send You can't use a language that will be taken by everyone the same way. The public is heterogeneous - its subsets will use different "codes".

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I am from Europe and I am not completely sure about that to be honest. I also prefer programming. I also dislike software development as it reminds me of devel

by atoav 2y ago

mdp2021 2y ago
> software development Wrong angle. There is a problem, your consideration of the problem, the refinement of your solution to the problem: the solution gradually unfolds - it is developed.
reichstein 2y ago
The word "development" can mean several things. I don't think "software development" sounds bad when grouped with a phrase like "urban development". It describes growing and tuning software for, well, working better, solving more needs, and with fewer failure modes. I do agree that a "coder" creates code, and a programmer creates programs. I expect more of a complete program than of a bunch of code. If a text says "coder", it does set an expectation about the professionalism of the text. And I expect even more from a software solution created by a software engineer. At least a specification! Still, I, a professional software engineer and programmer, also write "code" for throwaway scripts, or just for myself, or that never gets completed. Or for fun. I will read articles by and for coders too. The word is a signal. It's neither good nor bad, but If that's not the signal the author wants to send, they should work on their communication.
- mdp2021 2y ago
  > If that's not the signal the author wants to send You can't use a language that will be taken by everyone the same way. The public is heterogeneous - its subsets will use different "codes".