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Better to stand strong in the principles of the 1st amendment than bend the knee to a foreign government. Free speech is the milk of the gods, the US constituti

Better to stand strong in the principles of the 1st amendment than bend the knee to a foreign government. Free speech is the milk of the gods, the US constitution is something to be coveted...

moefh 2y ago
It's hard to believe that's what's happening, since Musk has previously agreed to censor posts for a foreign government[1], writing at the time: The choice is have Twitter throttled in its entirety or limit access to some tweets. Which one do you want?” One difference in that case is that Musk had close business ties to that government, so read in that whatever you want. [1] https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/twitter-musk-censors-turkey-election-erdogan https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/twitter-musk-censors...
- johnisgood 2y ago
  Limiting access due to technical reasons is not censorship. That said, I have no clue that this is what is actually happening.
pjc50 2y ago
From the Brazilian position, it's better for them not to bend to a foreign non-government organization which has been assisting people trying to overthrow the Brazilian Constitution. But HN seems to think that Brazilians are NPCs without politics or constitution of their own.
- mikrotikker 2y ago
  Yes well that is their choice if they want to be authoritarians and inhibit the free speech of their citizens. Keep Twitter banned.
the_why_of_y 2y ago
Twitter routinely complies with censorship demands by foreign governments, especially right-wing authoritarian ones. https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-or... Since Musk took ownership, the company has received 971 government demands, and fully complied with 808 of them. Before Musk, Twitter's full compliance rate hovered around 50%; since the takeover, it is over 80%.
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Better to stand strong in the principles of the 1st amendment than bend the knee to a foreign government. Free speech is the milk of the gods, the US constitution is something to be coveted...

moefh 2y ago

It's hard to believe that's what's happening, since Musk has previously agreed to censor posts for a foreign government[1], writing at the time: The choice is have Twitter throttled in its entirety or limit access to some tweets. Which one do you want?” One difference in that case is that Musk had close business ties to that government, so read in that whatever you want. [1] https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/twitter-musk-censors-turkey-election-erdogan https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/twitter-musk-censors...

johnisgood 2y ago
Limiting access due to technical reasons is not censorship. That said, I have no clue that this is what is actually happening.

pjc50 2y ago

From the Brazilian position, it's better for them not to bend to a foreign non-government organization which has been assisting people trying to overthrow the Brazilian Constitution. But HN seems to think that Brazilians are NPCs without politics or constitution of their own.

mikrotikker 2y ago
Yes well that is their choice if they want to be authoritarians and inhibit the free speech of their citizens. Keep Twitter banned.

the_why_of_y 2y ago

Twitter routinely complies with censorship demands by foreign governments, especially right-wing authoritarian ones. https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/ https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-or... Since Musk took ownership, the company has received 971 government demands, and fully complied with 808 of them. Before Musk, Twitter's full compliance rate hovered around 50%; since the takeover, it is over 80%.

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