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For me the killer feature of django is the auto-generated admin UI. I initially started my last project using Spring boot, but I was astonished to find there wa

For me the killer feature of django is the auto-generated admin UI. I initially started my last project using Spring boot, but I was astonished to find there was no equivalent. I don't know how people build websites in any speed without such a tool. I guess they just waste time duplicating effort on an admin UI or pay for one of those tools that can generate one from an API (meaning they have to also build an API). It's such a massive time-saver I switched to django after a week or so.

savolai 2y ago
I used to think this too. LLms make generating such UIs in other frameworks too much easier. Also the admin UI gets clumsy very fast and you’ll need to roll your own for a good UX.
Ingaz 2y ago
I would say even more: - the main reason to use django today is the admin UI - and the only reason to use django ORM is the admin UI
switch007 2y ago
It can be quite difficult to do anything mildly advanced with the admin UI, IIRC And it encourages CRUD thinking instead of thinking about business processes and user experience It's great for tiny/personal projects but in an organisation it can be a trap IMO
yurishimo 2y ago
It depends on what kind of app you’re building. The Django UI could be okay for your business use case, but for many businesses, it is not. If I have to write the entire admin UI for some specific business reasons/workflow, then I might as well dogfood those components for the needs of our dev team.
9dev 2y ago
I don’t really understand this, I was very much underwhelmed by the admin UI, and feel like I’m missing something? I mean what does it do other than list records and provide some basic forms to CUD those? It feels like much of the value in that is achieved even better by using a proper database client, say, JetBrains‘ database integration. I certainly wouldn’t let any business people touch a Django admin panel, or at least those I’ve seen built by our data guys. Way too technical. And don’t even get me started on extensibility. I wanted to have like, an additional page to include a Grafana iframe plus a bunch of buttons. Something that would take me about five lines in Laravel, for example. Good luck even searching the documentation for this…
- nprateem 2y ago
  It excels when you're iterating on an MVP. Once a business is proven and you have the money to go back and put in the the gold-plated solutions, sure, write your own. But while you're building the MVP it's amazing. No need to faff with building a separate admin, even if it is just CRUD. It means you can focus on your business logic while buying time to get you through the initial development.
sgt 2y ago
Most people seem to love it. I, on the other hand, tend to disable it from the start when creating a new Django project. I add shell_plus and I just use the Django REPL to explore the data (in addition to dbshell - psql in my case). That way I can type instead of having to navigate a UI.
aitchnyu 2y ago
Is there an admin ui which has finegrained horizontal and vertical permission depending on user? Django admin assumes admins have God-level control over all registered tables.

savolai 2y ago

I used to think this too. LLms make generating such UIs in other frameworks too much easier. Also the admin UI gets clumsy very fast and you’ll need to roll your own for a good UX.

Ingaz 2y ago

I would say even more: - the main reason to use django today is the admin UI - and the only reason to use django ORM is the admin UI

switch007 2y ago

It can be quite difficult to do anything mildly advanced with the admin UI, IIRC And it encourages CRUD thinking instead of thinking about business processes and user experience It's great for tiny/personal projects but in an organisation it can be a trap IMO

yurishimo 2y ago

It depends on what kind of app you’re building. The Django UI could be okay for your business use case, but for many businesses, it is not. If I have to write the entire admin UI for some specific business reasons/workflow, then I might as well dogfood those components for the needs of our dev team.

9dev 2y ago

I don’t really understand this, I was very much underwhelmed by the admin UI, and feel like I’m missing something? I mean what does it do other than list records and provide some basic forms to CUD those? It feels like much of the value in that is achieved even better by using a proper database client, say, JetBrains‘ database integration. I certainly wouldn’t let any business people touch a Django admin panel, or at least those I’ve seen built by our data guys. Way too technical. And don’t even get me started on extensibility. I wanted to have like, an additional page to include a Grafana iframe plus a bunch of buttons. Something that would take me about five lines in Laravel, for example. Good luck even searching the documentation for this…

nprateem 2y ago
It excels when you're iterating on an MVP. Once a business is proven and you have the money to go back and put in the the gold-plated solutions, sure, write your own. But while you're building the MVP it's amazing. No need to faff with building a separate admin, even if it is just CRUD. It means you can focus on your business logic while buying time to get you through the initial development.

sgt 2y ago

Most people seem to love it. I, on the other hand, tend to disable it from the start when creating a new Django project. I add shell_plus and I just use the Django REPL to explore the data (in addition to dbshell - psql in my case). That way I can type instead of having to navigate a UI.

aitchnyu 2y ago

Is there an admin ui which has finegrained horizontal and vertical permission depending on user? Django admin assumes admins have God-level control over all registered tables.