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> I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device. Funny thing about that government property you destroyed... it was broadcasting the evidence it

by klyrs 2y ago

> I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device. Funny thing about that government property you destroyed... it was broadcasting the evidence it collected.

righthand 2y ago
The police department won’t have sophisticated government drones for at least another 20 years, that is if expensive drones prove to be worth the effort and cost to allow civilian level law enforcement to have one. The point of this conversation isn’t to trump how you can get around my lie. The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. A drone isn’t impossible to take down covertly. I don’t have to answer every technical use case to make a point. If a member of a small community goes against the federal government that believes government overreach is happening, they can get the community to protect them.
- klyrs 2y ago
  > The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. You know that police are known for their brutality in both rural and urban environs, right? My dad lied to the cops when he lived out in the boonies and he got the shit kicked out of him and was thrown in jail on bullshit charges. He was released the next day, but his rib wouldn't heal for weeks.
  - righthand 2y ago
    And that applies everywhere in every case? All of this anecdotal evidence has nothing to do with people’s romanticization of the idea that you can isolate yourself pretty well in the remote US.
    - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
      And you just escalated a drone flying above your house into a full out gun fight with swat teams and what not. It's not like you're going to win that fight.
      - righthand 2y ago
        Right, because the middle of nowhere has a swat team let a lone a violence trained police force. Tell me you’ve never left the city.
        rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        I'm pretty sure they'll do a road trip to your remote place if you start shooting at random things in the sky.

by klyrs 2y ago

> I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device. Funny thing about that government property you destroyed... it was broadcasting the evidence it collected.

righthand 2y ago

The police department won’t have sophisticated government drones for at least another 20 years, that is if expensive drones prove to be worth the effort and cost to allow civilian level law enforcement to have one. The point of this conversation isn’t to trump how you can get around my lie. The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. A drone isn’t impossible to take down covertly. I don’t have to answer every technical use case to make a point. If a member of a small community goes against the federal government that believes government overreach is happening, they can get the community to protect them.

klyrs 2y ago
> The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. You know that police are known for their brutality in both rural and urban environs, right? My dad lied to the cops when he lived out in the boonies and he got the shit kicked out of him and was thrown in jail on bullshit charges. He was released the next day, but his rib wouldn't heal for weeks.
- righthand 2y ago
  And that applies everywhere in every case? All of this anecdotal evidence has nothing to do with people’s romanticization of the idea that you can isolate yourself pretty well in the remote US.
  - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
    And you just escalated a drone flying above your house into a full out gun fight with swat teams and what not. It's not like you're going to win that fight.
    - righthand 2y ago
      Right, because the middle of nowhere has a swat team let a lone a violence trained police force. Tell me you’ve never left the city.
      - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        I'm pretty sure they'll do a road trip to your remote place if you start shooting at random things in the sky.