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Stupid new rules. And I think I'm already being charitable. Of course phones should be banned during class, but not in-between classes. >Under the new rules, p
by Aerroon 2y ago
Stupid new rules. And I think I'm already being charitable. Of course phones should be banned during class, but not in-between classes.
>Under the new rules, pupils who don't comply will be excluded from school for one day.
The "punishment" is even stupider than the new rules themselves. Kids already do not want to be in school and you're rewarding them with that for breaking a rule.
>Scientific data on how the use of mobile phones during the school day affects the learning process itself, are overwhelming.
If we have such great scientific data on the process of learning then why isn't this being used to improve educational outcomes in general? Greece isn't exactly topping the charts with their performance, nor were the previous high ranking results taking these kinds of steps of banning phones outright. Or days in another way: I very much doubt that we have actual strong evidence on this that isn't muddied by all kinds of other factors.
Considering that teachers can't even spot students that are chatting or cheating during exams, I think this ban is also going to be ineffective.
I swear, most adults have completely forgotten what it was like to be a teenager in school.
- eesmith 2y ago> Kids already do not want to be in school Where I grew up, kids were required to attend school until they were 16, but free schooling was available until high school graduation, so nominally about 18. The number of 17 year olds who voluntarily went to school tells me that a lot of kids want to be in school. > why isn't this being used to improve educational outcomes in general? There is overwhelming evidence that environmental lead worsens educational outcomes in general. That's one of the reasons we have greatly reduced using lead. Just because the data against lead is overwhelming doesn't mean we suddenly know everything about how to improve learning. > I think this ban is also going to be ineffective. We know that such bans elsewhere can be effective. We know that teens smoke at school too, even though smoking has long since been banned at school, with punishment which includes suspension. Should we get rid of smoking bans then?