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Is it legal to film anywhere? In Sweden filming in public places with fixed equipment (a car counts apparently) is illegal. But on the other hand any evidence i

Is it legal to film anywhere? In Sweden filming in public places with fixed equipment (a car counts apparently) is illegal. But on the other hand any evidence is admitted in court, even material obtained while breaking a law. So there has been a few cases where police have caught the person vandalizing the car and also needed to consider whether to fine the owner.

dghlsakjg 2y ago
In the US, it is legal to film anywhere public (out on the street, in a government building, etc). You can even film inside of private establishments (restaurants, stores) until you have been asked to stop. This is part of the protection of free speech and press. You cannot use the footage gathered for commercial purposes without permission of people you filmed. Journalism for pay, and art for pay are not considered commercial purposes.
- sneak 2y ago
  *asked to stop by the owner. you are within your rights to film or photograph other restaurant patrons even if those being filmed don’t like it. it is up to the owner of the property.
- alkonaut 2y ago
  It is in Sweden too. And everywhere I know of in democratic countries. But here it applies so long as I’m there doing the filming myself. The law here isn’t about filming but regulation of surveillance, and is only about installing equipment that films public spaces without permit. For example: a ring doorbell can film my driveway and porch but not the street. The thing about the Tesla is that it counts the same as mounting a camera on a house filming a public street corner, and not as a person filming the same street corner with their smartphone. I don’t see the connection to freedom of speech since the act of recording anything is unrelated to if and how you can use that recording (which would be when it becomes speech).
  - dghlsakjg 2y ago
    The us doesn’t differentiate between creating media with a handheld camera or creating media by permanently mounting an unattended 360 surveillance cam in the middle of a busy street. It is all seen as protected speech. You don’t have to see or agree with the connection, that distinction is for the US courts, and they have interpreted it VERY broadly. The other difference is that in the states, you largely don’t have a right to privacy in public or anywhere visible from public.

dghlsakjg 2y ago

In the US, it is legal to film anywhere public (out on the street, in a government building, etc). You can even film inside of private establishments (restaurants, stores) until you have been asked to stop. This is part of the protection of free speech and press. You cannot use the footage gathered for commercial purposes without permission of people you filmed. Journalism for pay, and art for pay are not considered commercial purposes.

sneak 2y ago
*asked to stop by the owner. you are within your rights to film or photograph other restaurant patrons even if those being filmed don’t like it. it is up to the owner of the property.
alkonaut 2y ago
It is in Sweden too. And everywhere I know of in democratic countries. But here it applies so long as I’m there doing the filming myself. The law here isn’t about filming but regulation of surveillance, and is only about installing equipment that films public spaces without permit. For example: a ring doorbell can film my driveway and porch but not the street. The thing about the Tesla is that it counts the same as mounting a camera on a house filming a public street corner, and not as a person filming the same street corner with their smartphone. I don’t see the connection to freedom of speech since the act of recording anything is unrelated to if and how you can use that recording (which would be when it becomes speech).
- dghlsakjg 2y ago
  The us doesn’t differentiate between creating media with a handheld camera or creating media by permanently mounting an unattended 360 surveillance cam in the middle of a busy street. It is all seen as protected speech. You don’t have to see or agree with the connection, that distinction is for the US courts, and they have interpreted it VERY broadly. The other difference is that in the states, you largely don’t have a right to privacy in public or anywhere visible from public.