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I've seen this phenomenon play out multiple times in my professional career, where a considerable amount of effort goes into creating a robust system only for t

I've seen this phenomenon play out multiple times in my professional career, where a considerable amount of effort goes into creating a robust system only for the effort to be minimized by management due to its stability. Somehow preventing a plane from crashing is not as valuable as digging through the ashes.

deepsun 2y ago
A lot of jobs are like that. Accounting, legal and security work is only visible when it was bad. Noone is being promoted for doing good job that prevented an unanticipated disaster from happening.
- HPsquared 2y ago
  That's why presentation and "sales" type skills can be useful. A bit of doom-mongering internal PR about the problem, then present the solution. Don't just solve it quietly.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  In agreement with your overall point, accounting and legal is different though. For accounting, it's not a simple cost center, and is at the front line to show the numbers. They can say how much it will cost to not comply with a rule, or how much they saved by creativity or ingenuity. Being that close to the money is a tremendous advantage. Legal is more distant, but there's a clear scale of how much is on the line. When you review a contract, it's pretty clear what’s at stake if legal work is botched. That's my main takeaway: if you care about money, you need to be as close to it as possible. At the same skill level, dealing with user security or financial transaction security won't pay the same.
pflenker 2y ago
„there is no glory in prevention”.
hibikir 2y ago
I have made a career if stabilizing systems... but the secret is that they have to be pretty close to on fire before I am ever called in.
- pimlottc 2y ago
  And unfortunately sometimes you have to just let the fire smolder before anyone cares enough to let you fix it.
- datavirtue 2y ago
  This. Make problems ugly, any way you can.

deepsun 2y ago

A lot of jobs are like that. Accounting, legal and security work is only visible when it was bad. Noone is being promoted for doing good job that prevented an unanticipated disaster from happening.

HPsquared 2y ago
That's why presentation and "sales" type skills can be useful. A bit of doom-mongering internal PR about the problem, then present the solution. Don't just solve it quietly.
makeitdouble 2y ago
In agreement with your overall point, accounting and legal is different though. For accounting, it's not a simple cost center, and is at the front line to show the numbers. They can say how much it will cost to not comply with a rule, or how much they saved by creativity or ingenuity. Being that close to the money is a tremendous advantage. Legal is more distant, but there's a clear scale of how much is on the line. When you review a contract, it's pretty clear what’s at stake if legal work is botched. That's my main takeaway: if you care about money, you need to be as close to it as possible. At the same skill level, dealing with user security or financial transaction security won't pay the same.

pflenker 2y ago

„there is no glory in prevention”.

hibikir 2y ago

I have made a career if stabilizing systems... but the secret is that they have to be pretty close to on fire before I am ever called in.

pimlottc 2y ago
And unfortunately sometimes you have to just let the fire smolder before anyone cares enough to let you fix it.
datavirtue 2y ago
This. Make problems ugly, any way you can.