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It was on my property. Spying isn’t legal because you can fly a drone over my fence. My places have a right to defend yourself. How do I know it’s not an attack

It was on my property. Spying isn’t legal because you can fly a drone over my fence. My places have a right to defend yourself. How do I know it’s not an attack?

gruez 2y ago
I'm not sure how you got the impression that the discussion was about cameras/drones on your property. The OP talked about "Cameras everywhere all the time. No more anonymity in public soon". It's clear that we're talking about other people's cameras in public spaces, not voyeurs trying to look in your bedroom.
- righthand 2y ago
  How did I get that impression in my own reply chain where I made a point about it? Idk what you’re suggesting.
rad_gruchalski 2y ago
Do you own the airspace above your property?
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- righthand 2y ago
  Who cares prove that it wasn’t on the ground when I destroyed it. My story will be: I saw it fall to the ground. When I walked up it looked like a bunch of spinning blades. I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device.
  - klyrs 2y ago
    > I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device. Funny thing about that government property you destroyed... it was broadcasting the evidence it collected.
    - righthand 2y ago
      The police department won’t have sophisticated government drones for at least another 20 years, that is if expensive drones prove to be worth the effort and cost to allow civilian level law enforcement to have one. The point of this conversation isn’t to trump how you can get around my lie. The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. A drone isn’t impossible to take down covertly. I don’t have to answer every technical use case to make a point. If a member of a small community goes against the federal government that believes government overreach is happening, they can get the community to protect them.
      - klyrs 2y ago
        > The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. You know that police are known for their brutality in both rural and urban environs, right? My dad lied to the cops when he lived out in the boonies and he got the shit kicked out of him and was thrown in jail on bullshit charges. He was released the next day, but his rib wouldn't heal for weeks.
        righthand 2y ago
        And that applies everywhere in every case? All of this anecdotal evidence has nothing to do with people’s romanticization of the idea that you can isolate yourself pretty well in the remote US.
        rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        And you just escalated a drone flying above your house into a full out gun fight with swat teams and what not. It's not like you're going to win that fight.
        righthand 2y ago
        Right, because the middle of nowhere has a swat team let a lone a violence trained police force. Tell me you’ve never left the city.
Eumenes 2y ago
Acktually, the FAA owns the air and sky buddy!

It was on my property. Spying isn’t legal because you can fly a drone over my fence. My places have a right to defend yourself. How do I know it’s not an attack?

gruez 2y ago

I'm not sure how you got the impression that the discussion was about cameras/drones on your property. The OP talked about "Cameras everywhere all the time. No more anonymity in public soon". It's clear that we're talking about other people's cameras in public spaces, not voyeurs trying to look in your bedroom.

righthand 2y ago
How did I get that impression in my own reply chain where I made a point about it? Idk what you’re suggesting.

rad_gruchalski 2y ago

Do you own the airspace above your property?

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righthand 2y ago
Who cares prove that it wasn’t on the ground when I destroyed it. My story will be: I saw it fall to the ground. When I walked up it looked like a bunch of spinning blades. I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device.
- klyrs 2y ago
  > I thought someone was attacking me so I destroyed the device. Funny thing about that government property you destroyed... it was broadcasting the evidence it collected.
  - righthand 2y ago
    The police department won’t have sophisticated government drones for at least another 20 years, that is if expensive drones prove to be worth the effort and cost to allow civilian level law enforcement to have one. The point of this conversation isn’t to trump how you can get around my lie. The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. A drone isn’t impossible to take down covertly. I don’t have to answer every technical use case to make a point. If a member of a small community goes against the federal government that believes government overreach is happening, they can get the community to protect them.
    - klyrs 2y ago
      > The point is that I can lie to get out of any spurious law enforcement pursuits, and that is freedom. You know that police are known for their brutality in both rural and urban environs, right? My dad lied to the cops when he lived out in the boonies and he got the shit kicked out of him and was thrown in jail on bullshit charges. He was released the next day, but his rib wouldn't heal for weeks.
      - righthand 2y ago
        And that applies everywhere in every case? All of this anecdotal evidence has nothing to do with people’s romanticization of the idea that you can isolate yourself pretty well in the remote US.
        rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        And you just escalated a drone flying above your house into a full out gun fight with swat teams and what not. It's not like you're going to win that fight.
        righthand 2y ago
        Right, because the middle of nowhere has a swat team let a lone a violence trained police force. Tell me you’ve never left the city.

Eumenes 2y ago

Acktually, the FAA owns the air and sky buddy!