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They're starting from different baselines. Japan has a widespread culture of overwork, and Greece is notorious for the extreme opposite.

maeil 2y ago
Greece is always on top of those "hours worked per month" statistic for Europe. So at least the data strongly contradicts that notion.
- chrisandchris 2y ago
  I think "hours worked per month" and "hours _reported as work_ per month" do not have to correlate.
- hyperman1 2y ago
  When I took a bus in Greece, 4 people were needed for a bus: 1 in a ticket shop, 1 selling tickets on the bus, 1 validating tickets, and 1 driver. None were in any kind of hurry. In Belgium, there is only the driver and maybe on the busiest locations a ticket shop.
- izacus 2y ago
  Greeks are also kings of faked misrepresented data so that doesn't mean much.
petre 2y ago
Ah, the lazy Greeks stereotype at it again. A myth spread by the creditor states' governments, namely Germany's Angela Merkel, when in fact the Eurozone is broken by design. https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/design-failures-eurozone https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/design-failures-eurozone
- rcbdev 2y ago
  Maybe faking most of the data to join the Eurozone is not such a good idea then, Greece. So is also not kicking them out the second the swindle is realized, EU. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/23/world/europe/greece-admits-faking-data-to-join-europe.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/23/world/europe/greece-admit...
  - leansensei 2y ago
    The EU was complicit in pretending that Greece's data could be taken without a mound of salt.
    - petre 2y ago
      Guess who helped Greece hide their debt? Goldman and Sachs. And guess who worked for Goldman during that time? Mario Draghi, who was rewarded with a term as the ECB president afterwards. https://www.politico.eu/article/mario-draghi-ecb-trichet-bank-financial-crisis-economy/ https://www.politico.eu/article/mario-draghi-ecb-trichet-ban...
    - izacus 2y ago
      For someone to be complicit, the other party had to be instigator of the crime, right? Poor Greeks, forced into corruption, they would NEVER do that by themselves!

maeil 2y ago

Greece is always on top of those "hours worked per month" statistic for Europe. So at least the data strongly contradicts that notion.

chrisandchris 2y ago
I think "hours worked per month" and "hours _reported as work_ per month" do not have to correlate.
hyperman1 2y ago
When I took a bus in Greece, 4 people were needed for a bus: 1 in a ticket shop, 1 selling tickets on the bus, 1 validating tickets, and 1 driver. None were in any kind of hurry. In Belgium, there is only the driver and maybe on the busiest locations a ticket shop.
izacus 2y ago
Greeks are also kings of faked misrepresented data so that doesn't mean much.

petre 2y ago

Ah, the lazy Greeks stereotype at it again. A myth spread by the creditor states' governments, namely Germany's Angela Merkel, when in fact the Eurozone is broken by design. https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/design-failures-eurozone https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/design-failures-eurozone

rcbdev 2y ago
Maybe faking most of the data to join the Eurozone is not such a good idea then, Greece. So is also not kicking them out the second the swindle is realized, EU. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/23/world/europe/greece-admits-faking-data-to-join-europe.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/23/world/europe/greece-admit...
- leansensei 2y ago
  The EU was complicit in pretending that Greece's data could be taken without a mound of salt.
  - petre 2y ago
    Guess who helped Greece hide their debt? Goldman and Sachs. And guess who worked for Goldman during that time? Mario Draghi, who was rewarded with a term as the ECB president afterwards. https://www.politico.eu/article/mario-draghi-ecb-trichet-bank-financial-crisis-economy/ https://www.politico.eu/article/mario-draghi-ecb-trichet-ban...
  - izacus 2y ago
    For someone to be complicit, the other party had to be instigator of the crime, right? Poor Greeks, forced into corruption, they would NEVER do that by themselves!