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Neo – Futuristic Matrix Messenger

39 points by leonry 2y ago

OutOfHere 2y ago
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notum 2y ago
Not quite sure why I expected something like eDEX-UI.
- syene 2y ago
  You’re old
dcreater 2y ago
Is it neo or nil? It's called both in the link and nil on product hunt
- stavros 2y ago
  Hell, the URL is /nil/, then the headline is Neo, then the paragraph Neo, then the next paragraph Nil. Odd.
  - arp242 2y ago
    It's a futuristic client. Where we're going we don't need consistent branding.
mxuribe 2y ago
Huh...At first I thought they remade the Neochat desktop client/app website [https://apps.kde.org/neochat/ https://apps.kde.org/neochat/] ...The matrix messaging desktop app from KDE...But...its not that at all, is it? Its, like, some other thing; I guess.
NewsaHackO 2y ago
Is this open source? Has there been any formal audit to verify it meets security standards?
sundarurfriend 2y ago
This looks like it has a lot of features that could get a "normal" person to use Matrix and enjoy it, but the way it's presented and the ProductHunt page and all also make it look like it's just waiting to cross into enshittification territory. I can see this getting users hooked on to the extra features and switching to some propreitary backend once they have some significant number of users and counting on inertia and UI polish to keep capturing users.
- syene 2y ago
  > … getting users hooked on to the extra features and switching to some propreitary backend … If they do, they’ll have to bridge it to Matrix. The entire point of a Matrix messenger is being able to message Matrix; no matter how slick the GIFs or the local AI-models are—people won’t use a Matrix messenger that can’t message Matrix.
  - sundarurfriend 2y ago
    They will if there are sufficient users that communicate only within the app - it's basic Embrace Extend Extinguish. Introduce new features that don't work as well on other Matrix apps, "encourage" users to convince others to switch to this app (Apple has proven that all it takes sometimes is a different colour!), and relegate the Matrix connection to a low priority non-default option over time.
cpressland 2y ago
AppStore link: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/neo-matrix-messenger/id6499088265 https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/neo-matrix-messenger/id6499088...
wkat4242 2y ago
Only for iOS sadly. Because it sounds good.

39 points by leonry 2y ago

OutOfHere 2y ago

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notum 2y ago

Not quite sure why I expected something like eDEX-UI.

syene 2y ago
You’re old

dcreater 2y ago

Is it neo or nil? It's called both in the link and nil on product hunt

stavros 2y ago
Hell, the URL is /nil/, then the headline is Neo, then the paragraph Neo, then the next paragraph Nil. Odd.
- arp242 2y ago
  It's a futuristic client. Where we're going we don't need consistent branding.

mxuribe 2y ago

Huh...At first I thought they remade the Neochat desktop client/app website [https://apps.kde.org/neochat/ https://apps.kde.org/neochat/] ...The matrix messaging desktop app from KDE...But...its not that at all, is it? Its, like, some other thing; I guess.

NewsaHackO 2y ago

Is this open source? Has there been any formal audit to verify it meets security standards?

sundarurfriend 2y ago

This looks like it has a lot of features that could get a "normal" person to use Matrix and enjoy it, but the way it's presented and the ProductHunt page and all also make it look like it's just waiting to cross into enshittification territory. I can see this getting users hooked on to the extra features and switching to some propreitary backend once they have some significant number of users and counting on inertia and UI polish to keep capturing users.

syene 2y ago
> … getting users hooked on to the extra features and switching to some propreitary backend … If they do, they’ll have to bridge it to Matrix. The entire point of a Matrix messenger is being able to message Matrix; no matter how slick the GIFs or the local AI-models are—people won’t use a Matrix messenger that can’t message Matrix.
- sundarurfriend 2y ago
  They will if there are sufficient users that communicate only within the app - it's basic Embrace Extend Extinguish. Introduce new features that don't work as well on other Matrix apps, "encourage" users to convince others to switch to this app (Apple has proven that all it takes sometimes is a different colour!), and relegate the Matrix connection to a low priority non-default option over time.

cpressland 2y ago

AppStore link: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/neo-matrix-messenger/id6499088265 https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/neo-matrix-messenger/id6499088...

wkat4242 2y ago

Only for iOS sadly. Because it sounds good.