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This data is also used by cartels to kill people. Mass surveillance has a blood price.

• notduncansmith 2y ago
  This certainly seems within the realm of possibility but can you link to a source?
  • throwaway48476 2y ago
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/mexico-cartels-drugs-spying-corruption https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/mexico-cartels... https://youtube.com/watch?v=q1p94mLE3Aw https://youtube.com/watch?v=q1p94mLE3Aw Mass surveillance is used to kill journalists and politicians. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-councilwoman-killed-after-bloodiest-ever-elections-2024-06-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-councilwoman-k...
    • notduncansmith 2y ago
      Thanks for the references
• kurthr 2y ago
  Don't collect any large scale data on your public (customer?) you don't want adversaries to have. You quickly become the weakest link.
  • whatnotests2 2y ago
    Or arrested, convicted, imprisoned. Cite the Telegram CEO's current status.
    • kurthr 2y ago
      I'm not sure I follow, but yes, if he has collected personal/(un)encrypted data, then he and the infrastructure he controls would be one of the weakest links wherever he is. I do think the Russian response is quite a bit of projection, because they know what they would do to get the keys to Telegram's kingdom. It's interesting though that I haven't heard Elon opine on how weak Telegram's end-end security is since the arrest. You'd think he would warn everyone to avoid it?