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As a U.S. Citizen who's spent stints in Texas over the course of several decades, while I jave friends there, it's clear that they are following in the footstep

As a U.S. Citizen who's spent stints in Texas over the course of several decades, while I jave friends there, it's clear that they are following in the footsteps of China. They are welcoming an autocratic surveillance state. Stripping freedom of movement and rights to your own body, one by one. It'd be healthy if they just ceceded. Kind of like the a reverse Taiwan situation. Sorry Chip and JoJo, I think you're about to slip off the USA map, nit that the rest is much better.

briandear 2y ago
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- pixl97 2y ago
  >You can start businesses easily in Texas. You don’t have to get permission to cut down a tree in your own yard like you do in California. Lol, wtf are you talking about. A huge number of municipalities have laws around business regulations and around cutting trees. In addition most new houses in Texas are built in HOA's that have a significant number of rules. >There is a very good reason most tech companies in California are incorporated in Deleware. Taxes and well defined legal law that doesn't change on how a random judge feels on a particular day, and law that is tilted toward business needs. >And freedom of movement? https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/09/texas-abortion-transgender-care-outside-state-borders/ https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/09/texas-abortion-trans... It's leaving the state that said state is looking at punishing you for. You are really sucking up way too much propaganda and respouting it without understanding what you're talking about.
  - cmxch 2y ago
    > A huge number of municipalities have laws around business regulations and around cutting trees > In addition most new houses in Texas are built in HOA's that have a significant number of rules. Both exist in California on top of California regulations. What you don’t have in Texas is all the red tape that is required to build, live in, or rent a house. Not do you have the excessive regulatory apparatus that California has for businesses - whether to hire, fire, or retain talent. > It's leaving the state that said state is looking at punishing you for. Which is done to good people via abuse of California red flag laws. It used to be done via extraterritorial taxation.
fastball 2y ago
Which state do you live in that is doing better?
- karmajunkie 2y ago
  well just one data point, but i left texas for california, which may not do much better on the surveillance front (i haven’t really checked) but definitely does on the personal autonomy and movement front (at least, i haven’t heard of any cities in CA trying to adopt sanctuary-city-for-the-unborn laws restricting the use of their roads). we’re just a couple af clicks away from TX trying to mandate pregnancy tests to leave the state at this point.
- michaelmrose 2y ago
  Washington is doing a lot better despite not being the biggest route into our largest trading partner or flush with oil money. Texas is among the worst states in the union. Texas is one of the worst for human rights to the point where I wouldn't even drive through. They had to make a law that their police have to stop searching drivers buttholes without cause and yet they keep getting sued for doing random cavity searches. The last run through my parents got the third degree with implication that they might be immigrants. My fathers roots are in England/Scotland and both families have lived here for longer than the US has been the US. It is the among the worst for reproductive rights with lawmakers wanting to punish women for abortions obtained in other states, punish women who even drive through anti abortion counties on their way to leave the state, and let any interested party including woman's rapists collect a bounty on the head of their victim in a brazen attempt to avoid getting the law thrown out. Because of this and other factors its drastically short of doctors having almost the worst ratio of doctors to patients in the US https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/states-ranked-by-total-primary-care-physicians-in-2024.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/s... It has more people without health insurance than any other state and its getting worse in recent years. https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/percentage-without-health-insurance-coverage-by-state-2021-2022.html https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/pe... It is among the worst for law and order. It's AG is a criminal several times over. https://apnews.com/article/paxton-indictment-texas-d5e57fc6cd062c995ced91e9d2542199 https://apnews.com/article/paxton-indictment-texas-d5e57fc6c... It allows a certain county judge selected by Trump handle all the most insanely biased cases that nobody in their right mind would take handing out rulings binding citizens in other states. These cases are so ridiculous that the 6v3 conservative Supreme Court has to keep stepping in to put down this court's militantly stupid decisions. It is among the worst for democracy. It is working to try to pass a law that all statewide offices would have to be held by candidates who won the majority of the majority of its counties not its population. For reference Texas has 256 counties some with as few as a few dozen people and the majority of the majority could constitute as little as 4% of its population. It wants to enshrine rural republican rule at the expense of anything else. It filed a lawsuit last go round asking the surpreme court to literally throw out everyone's votes and essentially appoint Trump President. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-supreme-court-election-results/ https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-suprem... Despite being hard on crime its murder rate is slightly higher than average while its incarceration level is much higher than average. https://www.sentencingproject.org/research/us-criminal-justice-data/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/research/us-criminal-justi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate
mistrial9 2y ago
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edward28 2y ago
Are you just going to ignore the federal patriot Act.
michaelmrose 2y ago
It wouldn't be healthy to have a large potential enemy next door with a chunk of resources that used to accrue to our benefit nor to abandon the 45-47% whose wishes are in accord with the majority of the nation we all live in but who aren't in line with the majority of the state. Furthermore demographic changes suggest that the majority will be in some decades in accord with the rest of us if we don't blink now. More importantly it would create a legal precedent that if allowed would fracture the US utterly diminishing our global power and likely leading to long term conflict which we may lose. Anyone want to see civil war v2 with the new Confederacy aligned with China and Russia? Conflict with China and Russia seems increasingly likely already in the long run and as China's star rises they have less reason for restaint. Traditionally the rising star wars with the existing powers when supremacy is in doubt and that would very much be the case if we split in 2 or 3 and allegiance to eachother were in doubt. There is every reason to believe that the US will defeat the fascist threat presented by Trump and come through it whole. If we allow seccession we will instead likely see the US split into the US and Trumpistan with TX only the first domino to fall. Doubtless other red states would follow probably into a loose confederation of states itself in danger of splintering further. The best case would be ending up the EU with major economic ties preventing conflict between China and Russias aspirations crushed in Ukraine. This is however a massive dice roll with no guarantee that it goes so well especially for women, liberals, and minorities in the red states.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
we have your oil, F35 production pipeline, and best access to your #1 trading partner (Mexico) remember our much-maligned "disconnected" grid when you think you are turning the lights out on us
akira2501 2y ago
> It'd be healthy if they just ceceded. It'd be expedient. An entire generation of people have had such bad experiences in politics they've apparently just entirely given up on them and then have mistaken their position for one of rationale. It'd be healthy if we fixed whatever caused this type of banter to be accepted.
- michaelmrose 2y ago
  What you are seeing now is the death knell of the klan and their sympathizers. There basically isn't any "fix" for it other than to keep rejecting their ideology and keep moving our country on one funeral and one election at a time.

briandear 2y ago

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pixl97 2y ago
>You can start businesses easily in Texas. You don’t have to get permission to cut down a tree in your own yard like you do in California. Lol, wtf are you talking about. A huge number of municipalities have laws around business regulations and around cutting trees. In addition most new houses in Texas are built in HOA's that have a significant number of rules. >There is a very good reason most tech companies in California are incorporated in Deleware. Taxes and well defined legal law that doesn't change on how a random judge feels on a particular day, and law that is tilted toward business needs. >And freedom of movement? https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/09/texas-abortion-transgender-care-outside-state-borders/ https://www.texastribune.org/2024/02/09/texas-abortion-trans... It's leaving the state that said state is looking at punishing you for. You are really sucking up way too much propaganda and respouting it without understanding what you're talking about.
- cmxch 2y ago
  > A huge number of municipalities have laws around business regulations and around cutting trees > In addition most new houses in Texas are built in HOA's that have a significant number of rules. Both exist in California on top of California regulations. What you don’t have in Texas is all the red tape that is required to build, live in, or rent a house. Not do you have the excessive regulatory apparatus that California has for businesses - whether to hire, fire, or retain talent. > It's leaving the state that said state is looking at punishing you for. Which is done to good people via abuse of California red flag laws. It used to be done via extraterritorial taxation.

fastball 2y ago

Which state do you live in that is doing better?

karmajunkie 2y ago
well just one data point, but i left texas for california, which may not do much better on the surveillance front (i haven’t really checked) but definitely does on the personal autonomy and movement front (at least, i haven’t heard of any cities in CA trying to adopt sanctuary-city-for-the-unborn laws restricting the use of their roads). we’re just a couple af clicks away from TX trying to mandate pregnancy tests to leave the state at this point.
michaelmrose 2y ago
Washington is doing a lot better despite not being the biggest route into our largest trading partner or flush with oil money. Texas is among the worst states in the union. Texas is one of the worst for human rights to the point where I wouldn't even drive through. They had to make a law that their police have to stop searching drivers buttholes without cause and yet they keep getting sued for doing random cavity searches. The last run through my parents got the third degree with implication that they might be immigrants. My fathers roots are in England/Scotland and both families have lived here for longer than the US has been the US. It is the among the worst for reproductive rights with lawmakers wanting to punish women for abortions obtained in other states, punish women who even drive through anti abortion counties on their way to leave the state, and let any interested party including woman's rapists collect a bounty on the head of their victim in a brazen attempt to avoid getting the law thrown out. Because of this and other factors its drastically short of doctors having almost the worst ratio of doctors to patients in the US https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/states-ranked-by-total-primary-care-physicians-in-2024.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/rankings-and-ratings/s... It has more people without health insurance than any other state and its getting worse in recent years. https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/percentage-without-health-insurance-coverage-by-state-2021-2022.html https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/pe... It is among the worst for law and order. It's AG is a criminal several times over. https://apnews.com/article/paxton-indictment-texas-d5e57fc6cd062c995ced91e9d2542199 https://apnews.com/article/paxton-indictment-texas-d5e57fc6c... It allows a certain county judge selected by Trump handle all the most insanely biased cases that nobody in their right mind would take handing out rulings binding citizens in other states. These cases are so ridiculous that the 6v3 conservative Supreme Court has to keep stepping in to put down this court's militantly stupid decisions. It is among the worst for democracy. It is working to try to pass a law that all statewide offices would have to be held by candidates who won the majority of the majority of its counties not its population. For reference Texas has 256 counties some with as few as a few dozen people and the majority of the majority could constitute as little as 4% of its population. It wants to enshrine rural republican rule at the expense of anything else. It filed a lawsuit last go round asking the surpreme court to literally throw out everyone's votes and essentially appoint Trump President. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-supreme-court-election-results/ https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-suprem... Despite being hard on crime its murder rate is slightly higher than average while its incarceration level is much higher than average. https://www.sentencingproject.org/research/us-criminal-justice-data/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/research/us-criminal-justi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate

mistrial9 2y ago

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edward28 2y ago

Are you just going to ignore the federal patriot Act.

michaelmrose 2y ago

It wouldn't be healthy to have a large potential enemy next door with a chunk of resources that used to accrue to our benefit nor to abandon the 45-47% whose wishes are in accord with the majority of the nation we all live in but who aren't in line with the majority of the state. Furthermore demographic changes suggest that the majority will be in some decades in accord with the rest of us if we don't blink now. More importantly it would create a legal precedent that if allowed would fracture the US utterly diminishing our global power and likely leading to long term conflict which we may lose. Anyone want to see civil war v2 with the new Confederacy aligned with China and Russia? Conflict with China and Russia seems increasingly likely already in the long run and as China's star rises they have less reason for restaint. Traditionally the rising star wars with the existing powers when supremacy is in doubt and that would very much be the case if we split in 2 or 3 and allegiance to eachother were in doubt. There is every reason to believe that the US will defeat the fascist threat presented by Trump and come through it whole. If we allow seccession we will instead likely see the US split into the US and Trumpistan with TX only the first domino to fall. Doubtless other red states would follow probably into a loose confederation of states itself in danger of splintering further. The best case would be ending up the EU with major economic ties preventing conflict between China and Russias aspirations crushed in Ukraine. This is however a massive dice roll with no guarantee that it goes so well especially for women, liberals, and minorities in the red states.

oldpersonintx 2y ago

we have your oil, F35 production pipeline, and best access to your #1 trading partner (Mexico) remember our much-maligned "disconnected" grid when you think you are turning the lights out on us

akira2501 2y ago

> It'd be healthy if they just ceceded. It'd be expedient. An entire generation of people have had such bad experiences in politics they've apparently just entirely given up on them and then have mistaken their position for one of rationale. It'd be healthy if we fixed whatever caused this type of banter to be accepted.

michaelmrose 2y ago
What you are seeing now is the death knell of the klan and their sympathizers. There basically isn't any "fix" for it other than to keep rejecting their ideology and keep moving our country on one funeral and one election at a time.