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I feel like this falls into an uncanny valley between requiring the skill to cognitively model forms in your mind as text, which is fairly close to coding and u

I feel like this falls into an uncanny valley between requiring the skill to cognitively model forms in your mind as text, which is fairly close to coding and using a form builder UI.

bthallplz 2y ago
Yeah, it'd be great if over time they/a community provided a system for visualizing the form logic and a form builder GUI so you can go full-circle with this (building via code and GUI and saving/versioning/forking forms via source).
- mx20 2y ago
  SurveyJS already has all that and uses JSON. It's also MIT licensed, instead of this non commercial license.
breck 2y ago
> uncanny valley Yes, but he's very close to the obvious solution that will spark web 4.0. Closest I've seen yet.
- turnsout 2y ago
  Say more!
  - breck 2y ago
    Any and ever form submission, no matter how simple or complex, can be represented as a single file encoded in Particle Syntax with semantics provided by the Parsers programming language. Thus, any one filling out any form, no matter how complicated the form (tax returns, electronic medical records, mortgage applications, LSATs, et cetera), could in theory type the form in a single plain text document encoded in Particle Syntax, OR use an HTML multi input form which generates that text document under the hood, or a hybrid of both, since they are isomorphic to each other.
    - uneekname 2y ago
      If web 4.0 is better forms, count me in.
    - essentia0 2y ago
      Are there any such solutions/standards available? Tried searching Particle Syntax documents, nothing came up. That's exactly the sort of problem I'm working on now
      - breck 2y ago
        I should make this easier to use any day now. High on my priority list. Here's the issue: https://github.com/breck7/scroll/issues/133 https://github.com/breck7/scroll/issues/133
- darkhorse13 2y ago
  Would love to catch a chat with you about this if you don't mind. My email is tahmid(dot)hm(dot)dev(at)gmail.com.
  - breck 2y ago
    Sent! P.S. You can just write "tahmid.hm.dev@gmail.com". Gmail spam filter is good enough to eliminate automated spam, and also nowadays verbalization provides no additional protection against email address crawlers ;). Might even be the opposite ;)

I feel like this falls into an uncanny valley between requiring the skill to cognitively model forms in your mind as text, which is fairly close to coding and using a form builder UI.

bthallplz 2y ago

Yeah, it'd be great if over time they/a community provided a system for visualizing the form logic and a form builder GUI so you can go full-circle with this (building via code and GUI and saving/versioning/forking forms via source).

mx20 2y ago
SurveyJS already has all that and uses JSON. It's also MIT licensed, instead of this non commercial license.

breck 2y ago

> uncanny valley Yes, but he's very close to the obvious solution that will spark web 4.0. Closest I've seen yet.

turnsout 2y ago
Say more!
- breck 2y ago
  Any and ever form submission, no matter how simple or complex, can be represented as a single file encoded in Particle Syntax with semantics provided by the Parsers programming language. Thus, any one filling out any form, no matter how complicated the form (tax returns, electronic medical records, mortgage applications, LSATs, et cetera), could in theory type the form in a single plain text document encoded in Particle Syntax, OR use an HTML multi input form which generates that text document under the hood, or a hybrid of both, since they are isomorphic to each other.
  - uneekname 2y ago
    If web 4.0 is better forms, count me in.
  - essentia0 2y ago
    Are there any such solutions/standards available? Tried searching Particle Syntax documents, nothing came up. That's exactly the sort of problem I'm working on now
    - breck 2y ago
      I should make this easier to use any day now. High on my priority list. Here's the issue: https://github.com/breck7/scroll/issues/133 https://github.com/breck7/scroll/issues/133
darkhorse13 2y ago
Would love to catch a chat with you about this if you don't mind. My email is tahmid(dot)hm(dot)dev(at)gmail.com.
- breck 2y ago
  Sent! P.S. You can just write "tahmid.hm.dev@gmail.com". Gmail spam filter is good enough to eliminate automated spam, and also nowadays verbalization provides no additional protection against email address crawlers ;). Might even be the opposite ;)