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Btw after Hungary got the Presidency of the Council of the European Union[1] in July Orban made a trip to Ukraine[2] which was fine for the media until he went

Btw after Hungary got the Presidency of the Council of the European Union[1] in July Orban made a trip to Ukraine[2] which was fine for the media until he went directly afterwards to Russia and then to China[3] which the media didn’t took very well. To finish off his trip he went to the USA to meet and endorse Trump.[4] The media wasn’t really happy with that either. But overall he is one of the only European leaders which speaks with all relevant parties and tries to stop the conflict in Ukraine. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_the_Council_of_the_European_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_the_Council_of... 2. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/europe/orban-hungary-ukraine-zelensky.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/europe/orban-hungar... 3. https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/07/08/hungarian-prime-minister-viktor-orban-makes-surprise-visit-to-china https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/07/08/hungarian-prim... 4. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viktor-trump-mar-a-lago-visit-nato-summit/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viktor-trump-mar-a-lago-visit-n...

consp 2y ago
> tries to stop the conflict in Ukraine Afaik only cares about cheap gas, the rest is irrelevant.
- ajsnigrutin 2y ago
  If that's what hungarians want, cheap gas, he's working for hungarians, he's their president, i don't know what's wrong with that. I mean.. ask an average american, cut support for ukraine and in turn get cheaper gas.. what would a Billy or Bobby in texas say?
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cpursley 2y ago
Exactly, we need more talking and less moralizing and “preconditions” for talking. * Not an endorsement of this particular politician
aguaviva 2y ago
But overall he is one of the only European leaders which speaks with all relevant parties and tries to stop the conflict in Ukraine. They may not be making visits to Moscow to kiss Putin's hand, like Orban did. But the governments of all the major European countries are continually in contact with the relevant parties, and they all want to "stop the conflict in Ukraine". It's just a question of under which terms.

consp 2y ago

> tries to stop the conflict in Ukraine Afaik only cares about cheap gas, the rest is irrelevant.

ajsnigrutin 2y ago
If that's what hungarians want, cheap gas, he's working for hungarians, he's their president, i don't know what's wrong with that. I mean.. ask an average american, cut support for ukraine and in turn get cheaper gas.. what would a Billy or Bobby in texas say?
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cpursley 2y ago

Exactly, we need more talking and less moralizing and “preconditions” for talking. * Not an endorsement of this particular politician

aguaviva 2y ago

But overall he is one of the only European leaders which speaks with all relevant parties and tries to stop the conflict in Ukraine. They may not be making visits to Moscow to kiss Putin's hand, like Orban did. But the governments of all the major European countries are continually in contact with the relevant parties, and they all want to "stop the conflict in Ukraine". It's just a question of under which terms.