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Strange that these European utopias seem to be on the edge of collapsing into civil conflicts if the plebs are permitted to communicate with one another without
by starspangled 2y ago
Strange that these European utopias seem to be on the edge of collapsing into civil conflicts if the plebs are permitted to communicate with one another without government supervision.
- pelorat 2y agoHitlers rise to power can be attributed to free speech, which is why saying some things, and promoting some things, will land you in prison in places like Germany.
- janice1999 2y agoThe fascists literally murdered journalists and burned down newspapers critical of them on their rise to power. I suggest checking out this podcast on "How The Liberal Media Helped Fascism Win". The issue was not too much free speech. https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-how-the-liberal-media-207359043/ https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236...
- stiltzkin 2y ago[dead]
- Tainnor 2y agoThe debate about a surveillance state isn't the same debate as whether it should be allowed to deny the Holocaust. I know 0 Germans who are bothered by the latter.
- starspangled 2y agoEven if that were true, it can be attributed to lots of things. The ruling class's wars and economic mismanagement, common people feeling disenfranchised and abandoned by politcs, for some examples. In a real utopia it is those things that would be changed, not the peoples' ability to communicate without government eavesdropping on them.