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>we have a working meat inspection program ???? The topic of discussion is how a meat plant was allowed to operate despite egregiously failing not just safety

>we have a working meat inspection program ???? The topic of discussion is how a meat plant was allowed to operate despite egregiously failing not just safety rules and procedures but just plain common sense. You consider that working?

thehappypm 2y ago
Yes? Failures being identified? Consequences for the failure? If your definition of “first world country” is no company ever cuts corners, well, name one. It’s probably just Singapore.
- whoknowsidont 2y ago
  The failures were identified after many people got sick and there was no choice but to start an "RCA." I would remind you that these "failures" were not some black swan level of event that we can't foresee, it was plain and direct negligence. The rotten mean was literally, and I mean quite literally, piling up. You are being EXTREMELY outright dishonest in your perspectives here. I don't say this lightly, there is no possibility of reconciling your statements and the facts of the case.
  - f38zf5vdt 2y ago
    Most first world countries have long and vivid histories of food safety scandals. In the US in the 2000s, the PCA comes to mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_Corporation_of_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_Corporation_of_America The UK had mad cow disease, Italy continues to deal with diluted and falsified olive oil, the EU has had repeated horse meat scandals. Most recently Japan had a health food supplement scandal in which many people died.
    - whoknowsidont 2y ago
      Not sure what your point is? Especially when the comparisons aren't really proportional. I don't consider letting rotten meat pileup an example of a working inspection process, which is what I specifically responded to, first world or not.
hermannj314 2y ago
Yes, I think this is a failure of the system but not a failed system. I will go to grocery store this weekend and buy meat to serve to my family and I will not for even a split second assume the meat will hurt them or me, because in a country of 350 million people, these types of things are very very rare. Our food safety systems work and can be trusted and when a failure happens we talk about it, it makes the news, and changes happen. I really believe that.
- whoknowsidont 2y ago
  You're missing the part where people had to die.

thehappypm 2y ago

Yes? Failures being identified? Consequences for the failure? If your definition of “first world country” is no company ever cuts corners, well, name one. It’s probably just Singapore.

whoknowsidont 2y ago
The failures were identified after many people got sick and there was no choice but to start an "RCA." I would remind you that these "failures" were not some black swan level of event that we can't foresee, it was plain and direct negligence. The rotten mean was literally, and I mean quite literally, piling up. You are being EXTREMELY outright dishonest in your perspectives here. I don't say this lightly, there is no possibility of reconciling your statements and the facts of the case.
- f38zf5vdt 2y ago
  Most first world countries have long and vivid histories of food safety scandals. In the US in the 2000s, the PCA comes to mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_Corporation_of_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_Corporation_of_America The UK had mad cow disease, Italy continues to deal with diluted and falsified olive oil, the EU has had repeated horse meat scandals. Most recently Japan had a health food supplement scandal in which many people died.
  - whoknowsidont 2y ago
    Not sure what your point is? Especially when the comparisons aren't really proportional. I don't consider letting rotten meat pileup an example of a working inspection process, which is what I specifically responded to, first world or not.

hermannj314 2y ago

Yes, I think this is a failure of the system but not a failed system. I will go to grocery store this weekend and buy meat to serve to my family and I will not for even a split second assume the meat will hurt them or me, because in a country of 350 million people, these types of things are very very rare. Our food safety systems work and can be trusted and when a failure happens we talk about it, it makes the news, and changes happen. I really believe that.

whoknowsidont 2y ago
You're missing the part where people had to die.