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Except there’s a trend of slow reversal of the gains you speak of. Polio was diagnosed in an unvaccinated man in upstate NY (2022) [1] The anti vax movement a

by xyst 2y ago

Except there’s a trend of slow reversal of the gains you speak of. Polio was diagnosed in an unvaccinated man in upstate NY (2022) [1] The anti vax movement and distrust of science has exploded since social media. > of the west there isn’t much of a concern about a mother dying giving birth. Depends on the state, or country. In the US, legality of abortion is left up to the states due to repeal of Roe v Wade by SCOTUS that’s hell bent on this Christian crusade. Women have resorted to unsafe methods of abortion where traveling to an abortion clinic is not viable. In one case of a TX women, state courts refused to allow abortion to save mother [2]. She was fortunate to be able to travel to another state and get the medically required abortion. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/21/health/new-york-polio/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/21/health/new-york-polio/index.h... [2] https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/11/texas-abortion-lawsuit-kate-cox/ https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/11/texas-abortion-lawsu...

Spooky23 2y ago
You have to look at the statistics carefully. The hint in the New York story is “Rockland County”, which for these sorts of stories refers to a controlling, ultra conservative religious sect that is opposed to vaccination, amongst other things. It’s important context because of the insular nature of these types of communities - the splash damage of a polio or measles outbreak has limited impact outside of the community. Outside of these isolated areas, most of the slow burn is within the MAGA cult of personality, which will likely start to break and fade over the coming years, along with the pandemic memory.
mdp2021 2y ago
> since social media We must fix that construct: "«distrust [] has exploded since social media»". Which makes some sense, it is expectable in broad terms. In 2021 a large wave of communication appropriated the banner of Science, through voices that had clearly never seen science in a postcard. (It probably varied with regional communication.) So, distrust spread. What you are seeing is a crisis in authority - which also causes the first phenomenon of the rise of ignorant voices.
ekianjo 2y ago
> and distrust of science distrust of science comes from the fact that something that had nothing to do with Science was called Science and used against people. Mind you that the scientific method is all about debating hypotheses not censoring dissenting voices, which is exactly what happened during the Covid era. Of course distrust will spread.

by xyst 2y ago

Spooky23 2y ago

You have to look at the statistics carefully. The hint in the New York story is “Rockland County”, which for these sorts of stories refers to a controlling, ultra conservative religious sect that is opposed to vaccination, amongst other things. It’s important context because of the insular nature of these types of communities - the splash damage of a polio or measles outbreak has limited impact outside of the community. Outside of these isolated areas, most of the slow burn is within the MAGA cult of personality, which will likely start to break and fade over the coming years, along with the pandemic memory.

mdp2021 2y ago

> since social media We must fix that construct: "«distrust [] has exploded since social media»". Which makes some sense, it is expectable in broad terms. In 2021 a large wave of communication appropriated the banner of Science, through voices that had clearly never seen science in a postcard. (It probably varied with regional communication.) So, distrust spread. What you are seeing is a crisis in authority - which also causes the first phenomenon of the rise of ignorant voices.

ekianjo 2y ago

> and distrust of science distrust of science comes from the fact that something that had nothing to do with Science was called Science and used against people. Mind you that the scientific method is all about debating hypotheses not censoring dissenting voices, which is exactly what happened during the Covid era. Of course distrust will spread.