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This is a very, very sad day for the Internet. Unfortunately, you can expect that every app and every platform will get localized and blocking will be normalize
by mrtksn 2y ago
This is a very, very sad day for the Internet. Unfortunately, you can expect that every app and every platform will get localized and blocking will be normalized.
Soon TikTok will be blocked in the USA. I expect this to serve as an example and an avalanche to follow across the globe.
Blocking a platform for alleged crimes committed the by operator or participants is a punishment for all the users. It’s ridiculous but unfortunately, it appears that the world is ready to accept this as a solution.
- VerminOctopus1 2y agoIn this case was X not explicitly asked to remove the illegal content? They could have simply complied with the local law and avoided this outcome. With their hardcore engineers I’m sure they could have come up with a region-locked solution.
- mrtksn 2y agoThey already have regional blocking, they have been blocking political tweets and accounts in Turkey upon the request of the Turkish government since years now.
- LightHugger 2y agoWhat is unclear to me from reading articles is whether they are demanding region blocking (which may not be reasonable but at least makes sense) or a global deletion of that content...
- mrtksn 2y agoRight, many places require content be removed globally which I'm sure makes sense from their perspective.
- hagbard_c 2y agoThey might have been able to do so but they claim not to want to cooperate with what they consider to be a violation of both Brasilian law as well as their own ethical rules. Make of that what you will but it is a more defensible stance than bending to the will of whatever tyrant pops up even if it does not improve the bottom line.
- meiraleal 2y agoThe richest man in the world calling someone stopping him a tyrant is the joke of the year.
- IG_Semmelweiss 2y agoNo, its not. A thorough explanation of the applicable law, point by point, that demonstrates that the tyrant is wearing a robe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39966382
- meiraleal 2y agoWhy did you repeat the same message in multiples replies? This is weird. Replied once and it serves all them: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41408410 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41408410
- mikrotikker 2y agoHow are you going to prove that TikTok is an intelligence and Psyop arm the PLA? The CCP does not respond to discovery in court cases of adversary nations.
- mrtksn 2y agoIf don't have any proof why block it then? Is this North Korea? Anyway, if the US has suspicion of PLA working with TikTok and IMHO the should be suspicious, they can regulate how data is collected or how algorithms work and require mechanism that allows that be verified.
- mikrotikker 2y agoBecause you'll never be able to prove it, but the proof is arguably in it's effects... whether it's riling up domestic activists to block naval operations in home ports, messaging your entire userbase in-country to DDoS elected representatives or drive political violence through mis/disinformation . I think the entire western world should unify to push TikTok out and at the very least ban all types of "recommendation" algorithms on foreign and domestic social media applications. Free market economics be damned pull out the regulation stick and go whacking