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I’m curious why build this versus use any of the existing N versions of this concept that have been created. Probably a majority of them are student projects th

I’m curious why build this versus use any of the existing N versions of this concept that have been created. Probably a majority of them are student projects though…

samstave 2y ago
@azinman2 GOTO PRINT [list_N_versions_concept_created]
- azinman2 2y ago
  https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/ar-messaging-app-lets-you-leave-notes-in-the-real-world/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/ar-messaging... https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-ar-save-button-would-let-you-post-digital-notes-on-real-world/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-ar-save-button-woul... https://twitter.com/KilroyAR/status/963767972853665792 https://twitter.com/KilroyAR/status/963767972853665792 https://medium.com/shipharder/augmented-sticky-notes-a3a141665c59 https://medium.com/shipharder/augmented-sticky-notes-a3a1416... https://deepgram.com/learn/ar-note-taking-airnote https://deepgram.com/learn/ar-note-taking-airnote https://inevitablehuman.com/ar-based-messages-will-change-the-way-we-shop-work-and-send-texts/ https://inevitablehuman.com/ar-based-messages-will-change-th... This just the front page for googling “leave notes ar” I’ve seen this published in ubicomp journals in the 90s, student projects including a variant I did in the 2000s, and the idea gets repeated over and over again. I don’t think it’s ever been successful as there isn’t such a compelling use case. You can already leave post its / put up flyers which has the massive advantage of discoverability and simplicity, you can leave reviews on google maps/yelp, and beyond that niche applications like geocaching implement their own lookups. The idea of “just leave whatever you want” is so unspecific as to not really be useful, nor do I even know that I want to read the one note someone randomly left 4 years ago letting me know the toilet was broken.
  - samstave 2y ago
    +1 (the following is a tangential thought to your point): It will be great when we see an LLM trained on all the posts to HN, and other forums of this ilk. if there were a model finetuned specifically to harvest extremely nascient startup announcements, specifically those that launch via a git-repo-reveal.. and iterate in AI's internal AR simuCorpo9000 and spawn of tooling/ of its own. This would be a great tool. I'd like to say to bot (I partially do this already - see [0] --): "Take this [.git-url-to-repo], give me a mermaid and swimlane and a readme - give me deployment considerations, a ps1 and an aws to deploy to ecs on docker with fastapi on port 8888. use the .env for db creds - and give me a grafana dashboard for [this that and these]." And its so far doing quite great given how zygote stage we are with AI. https://i.imgur.com/7YOjJf8.png https://i.imgur.com/7YOjJf8.png https://i.imgur.com/KecrvfZ.png https://i.imgur.com/KecrvfZ.png https://i.imgur.com/tKYsmb9.png https://i.imgur.com/tKYsmb9.png https://i.imgur.com/nCGOfSU.png https://i.imgur.com/nCGOfSU.png https://i.imgur.com/ayDrXZA.png https://i.imgur.com/ayDrXZA.png
whycome 2y ago
It's like that instagram thing. There were already so many photo blog things. Like Flickr for example. Buy to be serious, those other AR attempts clearly didn't have something click that would find its audience and reach that critical mass. This seems to take a unique angle of making it a map-first design. But I've really never experienced the others.
- azinman2 2y ago
  I’ve seen many that are map first. There are N student projects alone that have done this. So maybe the execution was never good but: 1. Why do people want this 2. What’s special about this execution? Map first isn’t new. Flickr was super successful. None of these other implementations have been. Lots of other photo-oriented things have been successful in the past so it’s clear the market is there. IG also fundamentally changed the UX with the feed, mobile-first design, its filters to make things look better easily, etc. These were very meaningful changes. I don’t want to crap on others putting themselves out there. It’s hard and vulnerable, I know. But you have to at least acknowledge the space you’re going into and why this is different.

I’m curious why build this versus use any of the existing N versions of this concept that have been created. Probably a majority of them are student projects though…

samstave 2y ago

@azinman2 GOTO PRINT [list_N_versions_concept_created]

azinman2 2y ago
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/ar-messaging-app-lets-you-leave-notes-in-the-real-world/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/ar-messaging... https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-ar-save-button-would-let-you-post-digital-notes-on-real-world/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-ar-save-button-woul... https://twitter.com/KilroyAR/status/963767972853665792 https://twitter.com/KilroyAR/status/963767972853665792 https://medium.com/shipharder/augmented-sticky-notes-a3a141665c59 https://medium.com/shipharder/augmented-sticky-notes-a3a1416... https://deepgram.com/learn/ar-note-taking-airnote https://deepgram.com/learn/ar-note-taking-airnote https://inevitablehuman.com/ar-based-messages-will-change-the-way-we-shop-work-and-send-texts/ https://inevitablehuman.com/ar-based-messages-will-change-th... This just the front page for googling “leave notes ar” I’ve seen this published in ubicomp journals in the 90s, student projects including a variant I did in the 2000s, and the idea gets repeated over and over again. I don’t think it’s ever been successful as there isn’t such a compelling use case. You can already leave post its / put up flyers which has the massive advantage of discoverability and simplicity, you can leave reviews on google maps/yelp, and beyond that niche applications like geocaching implement their own lookups. The idea of “just leave whatever you want” is so unspecific as to not really be useful, nor do I even know that I want to read the one note someone randomly left 4 years ago letting me know the toilet was broken.
- samstave 2y ago
  +1 (the following is a tangential thought to your point): It will be great when we see an LLM trained on all the posts to HN, and other forums of this ilk. if there were a model finetuned specifically to harvest extremely nascient startup announcements, specifically those that launch via a git-repo-reveal.. and iterate in AI's internal AR simuCorpo9000 and spawn of tooling/ of its own. This would be a great tool. I'd like to say to bot (I partially do this already - see [0] --): "Take this [.git-url-to-repo], give me a mermaid and swimlane and a readme - give me deployment considerations, a ps1 and an aws to deploy to ecs on docker with fastapi on port 8888. use the .env for db creds - and give me a grafana dashboard for [this that and these]." And its so far doing quite great given how zygote stage we are with AI. https://i.imgur.com/7YOjJf8.png https://i.imgur.com/7YOjJf8.png https://i.imgur.com/KecrvfZ.png https://i.imgur.com/KecrvfZ.png https://i.imgur.com/tKYsmb9.png https://i.imgur.com/tKYsmb9.png https://i.imgur.com/nCGOfSU.png https://i.imgur.com/nCGOfSU.png https://i.imgur.com/ayDrXZA.png https://i.imgur.com/ayDrXZA.png

whycome 2y ago

It's like that instagram thing. There were already so many photo blog things. Like Flickr for example. Buy to be serious, those other AR attempts clearly didn't have something click that would find its audience and reach that critical mass. This seems to take a unique angle of making it a map-first design. But I've really never experienced the others.

azinman2 2y ago
I’ve seen many that are map first. There are N student projects alone that have done this. So maybe the execution was never good but: 1. Why do people want this 2. What’s special about this execution? Map first isn’t new. Flickr was super successful. None of these other implementations have been. Lots of other photo-oriented things have been successful in the past so it’s clear the market is there. IG also fundamentally changed the UX with the feed, mobile-first design, its filters to make things look better easily, etc. These were very meaningful changes. I don’t want to crap on others putting themselves out there. It’s hard and vulnerable, I know. But you have to at least acknowledge the space you’re going into and why this is different.