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Anyone have stats on what percentage of households living in a house/condo with a garage also own an EV? I see from: https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/arti

by floxy 2y ago

Anyone have stats on what percentage of households living in a house/condo with a garage also own an EV? I see from: https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/how-many-electric-cars-in-us.html https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/how-many-elect... ...that there are about 3.5 million EVs that have ever been purchased (since 2015), and ~700,000 PHEVs, for a total of 4.2 million. Looks like there are around 129 million households [0], and 70% of Americans live in a single-family home [1]. So it would seem that ~5% who might have a garage, might also own an EV (give or take). [0]https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-households-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-househo... [1] https://www.builderonline.com/money/economics/80-percent-of-americans-prefer-single-family-homeownership_o https://www.builderonline.com/money/economics/80-percent-of-...

taylodl 2y ago
"Single-family home" and "home having a garage" are two different things. Suburban homes built since the 80s often have a garage, but older suburban homes and homes that are in-town often do not.
- floxy 2y ago
  And I know 2 people living in condos with garages, where they could charge an EV. And you can charge an EV from your driveway, even without a garage. What would be your estimate of the percentage of households who could have an EV (because of ease of overnight charging at home), that actually do have an EV? 7%? 10%? https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ev+charger+driveway&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ev+charger+driveway&iax=ima...
  - taylodl 2y ago
    As I wrote my comment, I was thinking 10%. It's funny you bring up homes having driveways but no garages, that was a "thing" for a while, even in suburban homes in the 60s and 70s. The homes in town often didn't even have a driveway. A couple of days ago I saw an article saying in China extended-range PHEVs are becoming all the rage. It's a full electric drivetrain, the gas engine is only used for charging the battery. That's an idea that could really catch on.
    - floxy 2y ago
      See also the 2025 Ramcharger https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/ram-1500-ramcharger.html https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/ram-1500-ramcharger.html https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/1500-ramcharger https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/1500-ramcharger
      - taylodl 2y ago
        Wow! That's exactly the kind of capability I saw! All-electric drivetrain, engine is only necessary for charging the battery. I'm surprised the engine is as large as it is - but maybe it was spec'd to keep everything running even when towing/loading at max capacity? In a passenger vehicle you'd think they'd be able to get away with a small motorcycle engine.
        floxy 2y ago
        >In a passenger vehicle you'd think they'd be able to get away with a small motorcycle engine. The range extender on the BMW i3 EV is a motorcycle sized engine at 647cc: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15088505/2017-bmw-i3-with-range-extender-test-review/ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15088505/2017-bmw-i3-w...

by floxy 2y ago

taylodl 2y ago

"Single-family home" and "home having a garage" are two different things. Suburban homes built since the 80s often have a garage, but older suburban homes and homes that are in-town often do not.

floxy 2y ago
And I know 2 people living in condos with garages, where they could charge an EV. And you can charge an EV from your driveway, even without a garage. What would be your estimate of the percentage of households who could have an EV (because of ease of overnight charging at home), that actually do have an EV? 7%? 10%? https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ev+charger+driveway&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ev+charger+driveway&iax=ima...
- taylodl 2y ago
  As I wrote my comment, I was thinking 10%. It's funny you bring up homes having driveways but no garages, that was a "thing" for a while, even in suburban homes in the 60s and 70s. The homes in town often didn't even have a driveway. A couple of days ago I saw an article saying in China extended-range PHEVs are becoming all the rage. It's a full electric drivetrain, the gas engine is only used for charging the battery. That's an idea that could really catch on.
  - floxy 2y ago
    See also the 2025 Ramcharger https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/ram-1500-ramcharger.html https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/ram-1500-ramcharger.html https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/1500-ramcharger https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/1500-ramcharger
    - taylodl 2y ago
      Wow! That's exactly the kind of capability I saw! All-electric drivetrain, engine is only necessary for charging the battery. I'm surprised the engine is as large as it is - but maybe it was spec'd to keep everything running even when towing/loading at max capacity? In a passenger vehicle you'd think they'd be able to get away with a small motorcycle engine.
      - floxy 2y ago
        >In a passenger vehicle you'd think they'd be able to get away with a small motorcycle engine. The range extender on the BMW i3 EV is a motorcycle sized engine at 647cc: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15088505/2017-bmw-i3-with-range-extender-test-review/ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15088505/2017-bmw-i3-w...