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""This is not about speech. It's not. It's about the actual action of going on the keyboard, going into the dark web, gathering the information, downloading it

""This is not about speech. It's not. It's about the actual action of going on the keyboard, going into the dark web, gathering the information, downloading it to your computer and then disseminating it to people who are in the press or otherwise," Klein said" No, this is about how you lied to your public about the nature and format of the data that you failed to protect

sidewndr46 2y ago
I love how politicians invoke "the dark web" like its some bogeyman that hides in the night and preys upon young children. It's literally a bunch of websites. That's it.
- superkuh 2y ago
  Everything not on Facebook/Google/Twitter is the dark web.
  - kabdib 2y ago
    Especially sketchy places like Hacker News. Just look at the name!
- progmetaldev 2y ago
  Unfortunately it's how those with less technological knowledge help the government to place restrictions on freedom, because there is a disconnect with reporting accurate news and making a name for yourself. Walled gardens are easier to police (although often allowing more sinister things through than standard websites), and the public is becoming more and more aligned with social media being "the internet" similar to how AOL was setup in the 90's. Those of us that were around in that time period saw how much more was possible outside of these walled gardens, and I believe even those that weren't around in those days that have any tech-literacy are able to see the benefit to being able to exist outside of social media. There is always going to be some kind of crusade in the name of something that tugs at everyone's heartstrings, but it's only to chip away at the freedoms of those that don't partake in the terrible acts (which there's no doubt terrible acts do occur, but not enough to have us all give up our freedom to make it easier to stop). I hope it's clear that I agree with you, and it is scary how easily swayed the public is (and that's coming from a father that definitely wants protections for our children, but also understand that a lot of that needs to start at home with communication more than limiting technology).

sidewndr46 2y ago

I love how politicians invoke "the dark web" like its some bogeyman that hides in the night and preys upon young children. It's literally a bunch of websites. That's it.

superkuh 2y ago
Everything not on Facebook/Google/Twitter is the dark web.
- kabdib 2y ago
  Especially sketchy places like Hacker News. Just look at the name!
progmetaldev 2y ago
Unfortunately it's how those with less technological knowledge help the government to place restrictions on freedom, because there is a disconnect with reporting accurate news and making a name for yourself. Walled gardens are easier to police (although often allowing more sinister things through than standard websites), and the public is becoming more and more aligned with social media being "the internet" similar to how AOL was setup in the 90's. Those of us that were around in that time period saw how much more was possible outside of these walled gardens, and I believe even those that weren't around in those days that have any tech-literacy are able to see the benefit to being able to exist outside of social media. There is always going to be some kind of crusade in the name of something that tugs at everyone's heartstrings, but it's only to chip away at the freedoms of those that don't partake in the terrible acts (which there's no doubt terrible acts do occur, but not enough to have us all give up our freedom to make it easier to stop). I hope it's clear that I agree with you, and it is scary how easily swayed the public is (and that's coming from a father that definitely wants protections for our children, but also understand that a lot of that needs to start at home with communication more than limiting technology).