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Pry for ruby gives me great dot completion and isn't batshit insane. Most diehard dynamic typists live in their repl. When I use java with IntelliJ I miss my re

by jshen 14y ago

Pry for ruby gives me great dot completion and isn't batshit insane. Most diehard dynamic typists live in their repl. When I use java with IntelliJ I miss my repl. I do gain some things from the IDE, but I feel hamstrung compared to my repl.

carsongross 14y ago
I'll give pry a try, but I've tried a lot of dynamic IDE environments and none have come close to IJ w/ statically typed langs.
- jshen 14y ago
  Minus the part about t only working well for java and having to write your code in java ;) I also use rubymine for ruby development and it gives me a lot of the IntelliJ stuff, but it doesn't always work. I.e cmd-b to jump to the method definition.
carsongross 14y ago
Ah, fk man, another REPL? I don't want a repl for editing. I want to write code in a friggen editor and have dot completion work. I also want a repl for trying stuff out and debugging/light weight testing, but that's a different use case for me.
- spacemanaki 14y ago
  > I don't want a repl for editing. I want to write code in a friggen editor and have dot completion work. I don't either, which is why I use Emacs with something like SLIME or at least inferior-lisp. But I'm sure you've tried this already, and it's not for everyone of course. I find autocompletion and Intellisense-like features useful, but not really useful enough to make me pick a language based on them. I don't type terribly quickly either, but that doesn't worry me as most of my time is spent debugging and not typing. Of course static typing does help catch some bugs before you get to debug them, but I think talking about autocomplete and dot-completion is kind of a distraction.
- jshen 14y ago
  https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration
  - ehsanu1 14y ago
    But that doesn't give you autocomplete within the editor, it seems like it just opens up the editor and evals the file after exiting the editor.
    - jshen 14y ago
      Technically true, but I write most of my code in the REPL, then use edit-method to get it into my editor. Fom the link: NOTE: If you're using Ruby 1.9, you can use edit-method on methods defined from the Pry console. As these methods have no associated file, this implies the -p switch. This functionality doesn't yet work for Ruby 1.8.
- banister 14y ago
  Pry knows its place, it doesn't pretend its a nice environment for writing real code - instead when you want to edit a method definition you type "edit-method my_method"[1] and pry will open the source file of that method in an editor and take you to the exact line where the method is found. [1] https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration

by jshen 14y ago

carsongross 14y ago

I'll give pry a try, but I've tried a lot of dynamic IDE environments and none have come close to IJ w/ statically typed langs.

jshen 14y ago
Minus the part about t only working well for java and having to write your code in java ;) I also use rubymine for ruby development and it gives me a lot of the IntelliJ stuff, but it doesn't always work. I.e cmd-b to jump to the method definition.

carsongross 14y ago

Ah, fk man, another REPL? I don't want a repl for editing. I want to write code in a friggen editor and have dot completion work. I also want a repl for trying stuff out and debugging/light weight testing, but that's a different use case for me.

spacemanaki 14y ago
> I don't want a repl for editing. I want to write code in a friggen editor and have dot completion work. I don't either, which is why I use Emacs with something like SLIME or at least inferior-lisp. But I'm sure you've tried this already, and it's not for everyone of course. I find autocompletion and Intellisense-like features useful, but not really useful enough to make me pick a language based on them. I don't type terribly quickly either, but that doesn't worry me as most of my time is spent debugging and not typing. Of course static typing does help catch some bugs before you get to debug them, but I think talking about autocomplete and dot-completion is kind of a distraction.
jshen 14y ago
https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration
- ehsanu1 14y ago
  But that doesn't give you autocomplete within the editor, it seems like it just opens up the editor and evals the file after exiting the editor.
  - jshen 14y ago
    Technically true, but I write most of my code in the REPL, then use edit-method to get it into my editor. Fom the link: NOTE: If you're using Ruby 1.9, you can use edit-method on methods defined from the Pry console. As these methods have no associated file, this implies the -p switch. This functionality doesn't yet work for Ruby 1.8.
banister 14y ago
Pry knows its place, it doesn't pretend its a nice environment for writing real code - instead when you want to edit a method definition you type "edit-method my_method"[1] and pry will open the source file of that method in an editor and take you to the exact line where the method is found. [1] https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration https://github.com/pry/pry/wiki/Editor-integration