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I’ll take it. There are far worse ways to end up than Japan.
by jl6 2y ago
I’ll take it. There are far worse ways to end up than Japan.
- voidUpdate 2y agoIt depends who you are tbh. AFAIK they have a large problem dealing with mental health, and LGBT rights there aren't as good as a lot of other places. I understand they're getting a bit better about these kinds of things more recently but they've still got a way to go
- aprilthird2021 2y agoI think people who say this did not have the misfortune of growing up in a society where there are few jobs that don't pay well and basically your entire existence is to subsidize a much larger class of elderly whose values, desires, etc. always trump your own
- selimthegrim 2y agoThis sounds like graduate school.
- Barrin92 2y agothat's already an extremely loaded framing from the point of view of an individualized society. For a lot of people there is meaning in taking care, and listening to their elders. There's quite a bit of misfortune too in communities where your old family members are treated with the dignity of a used sofa cushion and shoved into the nursing home out of sight out of mind so you can self actualize and have a lot of fun.
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoThey’re clearly talking about a political class of elderly, not one’s own family.
- Barrin92 2y agosame concept. Japan is a nation of people who share a common bond. Thinking your responsibility ends at your houses fence is already adopting an atomized, American view. When Fukushima happened there were elderly volunteer groups who demanded that they be sent to clean up the waste to spare the youth, not just their own grandkids, everyone's. It's why when an earthquake levels a city there's no panic and looting in the streets. There is a whole national responsibility from young to old and the other way. This transactional language of talking about old people as a political class, of support as "subsidies" is already being stuck in an entirely different economized, weird mindset.
- aprilthird2021 2y agoI am talking from experience. I love my family and my elders and will spend everything for them. I don't have the same love for random elders I'm unrelated to even slightly who basically occupy all the top spots and jobs and ensure that young people have no chance at ascending.
- missedthecue 2y agoJapan has only just begun its implosion. Population dropped by about 0.5 million last year but that will 3x within a decade given their population pyramid. Losing 1-2% of your population per year is catastrophic and exponential.
- oska 2y agoWorked out very well for the peasants who survived or were born after the Black Plague (their labour became much more valuable). Plus, that demographic deficit helped kick off the Industrial Revolution.
- missedthecue 2y agoTotally different circumstance because the population pyramid even after black death looked great. Tons of incoming young people every generation. In fact it improved the pyramid! The black plague disproportionately killed old people. This is going to end up in a top heavy pyramid with a ton of old people relying on fewer and fewer young people. Simply because fewer and fewer are being born every year.
- arresin 2y ago> Losing 1-2% of your population per year is catastrophic and exponential. Why?