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You may be in a bubble, I know plenty of people with no/minimal relationship with parents. But it may not be a bad thing overall. Historically when people didn'

You may be in a bubble, I know plenty of people with no/minimal relationship with parents. But it may not be a bad thing overall. Historically when people didn't go far away from home they had more "forced" contact with parents; now, not as much. In the same way that it's good that we get more divorces now (people, mostly women, are able to leave bad relationships without the community/church getting in the way), it's also good that people can live independent lives and are not bound to their families. Of course it's better if the relationship is healthy, but both sides need to work on that. There are subreddit of estranged parents too and communities like https://www.rejectedparents.net/forums/ https://www.rejectedparents.net/forums/ but often the stories turn out to be "we're so alone, why are the kids so bad and don't talk to us anymore? (oh yeah, we did try to force them to do X, but that's irrelevant)"

_heimdall 2y ago
Whether this can be a good thing depends heavily on your opinion of the importance of family and shared history in society and culture.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Or more specifically whether you want to put people first, or some idealised structures with hidden issues.
  - _heimdall 2y ago
    Even that depends on what people you are putting first. Putting the individual first and it will likely make sense to put little value in family structures and community connection. Putting community first, or specifically the people who are in a stage of life that really need help day to day, and valuing family connections makes more sense. Neither are an absolute fix to everything. Like everything else, a mix of both likely makes the most sense.
    - exe34 2y ago
      > the people who are in a stage of life that really need help day to day, They should have thought of that before they fucked up their kids.
      - _heimdall 2y ago
        The thread here is talking about it as a very common occurrence. If you really think that a large percentage, or even a majority, of parents have fucked up their kids we have much bigger problems to deal with than how many elderly people may be living alone.

_heimdall 2y ago

Whether this can be a good thing depends heavily on your opinion of the importance of family and shared history in society and culture.

viraptor 2y ago
Or more specifically whether you want to put people first, or some idealised structures with hidden issues.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  Even that depends on what people you are putting first. Putting the individual first and it will likely make sense to put little value in family structures and community connection. Putting community first, or specifically the people who are in a stage of life that really need help day to day, and valuing family connections makes more sense. Neither are an absolute fix to everything. Like everything else, a mix of both likely makes the most sense.
  - exe34 2y ago
    > the people who are in a stage of life that really need help day to day, They should have thought of that before they fucked up their kids.
    - _heimdall 2y ago
      The thread here is talking about it as a very common occurrence. If you really think that a large percentage, or even a majority, of parents have fucked up their kids we have much bigger problems to deal with than how many elderly people may be living alone.