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I get the impression everyone working on any tech I care about, is not spending time on any board. Most tech discussions seem to be very smart people, explorin

I get the impression everyone working on any tech I care about, is not spending time on any board. Most tech discussions seem to be very smart people, exploring elegant ideas I don't have any background in, doing ASM and Forth and compilers and reading Knuth and general hacker type stuff, which is very different from what a lot of working devs talk and think about. Like, it's really cool, but I'm not a mathematician, there's only so much time I want to spend engaging with anything to do with self hosted apps or deep dives on an instruction set. Even in the FOSS scene the interesting stuff seems to be cathedral model. People just do stuff and it suddenly shows up on GitHub with no discussion outside the group prior to that. Tech discussions feel like somewhere of a circle you know what, and it's easy to feel like an outsider if you're not a hacker or mathematician(In the three tribes essay sense).

082349872349872 2y ago
three tribes essay?
- eternityforest 2y ago
  https://josephg.com/blog/3-tribes/ https://josephg.com/blog/3-tribes/
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Thanks! That {hacker,informatiker,maker} prism explains why LLMs leave me so meh: they're wonderful for makers, may be exploitable by hackers who wish to autogen all the boilerplate around their hand-crafted machine-sympathetic kernels, but huge slushy piles of artisanally-stirred linear algebra are pretty much the opposite of an informatician's quest for elegance.
    - eternityforest 2y ago
      It's probably the biggest influence on my understanding of what computers are to other people. For a maker, LLMs are the biggest thing in coding since type hints getting popular. They completely change how I code now that my typing speed is effectively unlimited and I'm never tempted to choose less best practicesy code to save a half hour of typing. Most of the people I work with are hackers or mathematicians/code philosophers, and it seems like to a lot of them the whole industry is stagnant, they want new ideas, not cleaner repackagings.
markus_zhang 2y ago
I kinda feel the same. Those guys and gals are too smart for me. Maybe ordinary people should just ignore them and focus on improving themselves instead of chasing the next interesting topic.

082349872349872 2y ago

three tribes essay?

eternityforest 2y ago
https://josephg.com/blog/3-tribes/ https://josephg.com/blog/3-tribes/
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Thanks! That {hacker,informatiker,maker} prism explains why LLMs leave me so meh: they're wonderful for makers, may be exploitable by hackers who wish to autogen all the boilerplate around their hand-crafted machine-sympathetic kernels, but huge slushy piles of artisanally-stirred linear algebra are pretty much the opposite of an informatician's quest for elegance.
  - eternityforest 2y ago
    It's probably the biggest influence on my understanding of what computers are to other people. For a maker, LLMs are the biggest thing in coding since type hints getting popular. They completely change how I code now that my typing speed is effectively unlimited and I'm never tempted to choose less best practicesy code to save a half hour of typing. Most of the people I work with are hackers or mathematicians/code philosophers, and it seems like to a lot of them the whole industry is stagnant, they want new ideas, not cleaner repackagings.

markus_zhang 2y ago

I kinda feel the same. Those guys and gals are too smart for me. Maybe ordinary people should just ignore them and focus on improving themselves instead of chasing the next interesting topic.