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Kind of sums up how people continue to give their lives; their most important years to corporations for self worth and validation when in reality, you mean noth

Kind of sums up how people continue to give their lives; their most important years to corporations for self worth and validation when in reality, you mean nothing to them. You're invisible.

mc32 2y ago
What does this mean? Should they monitor people's pulse or heat signature? Should they have someone do rounds and monitor people, maybe poke those seemingly still? This happened over a weekend. Discovered on a Tues. What exactly are you asking for? Are families and friends soulless because sometimes people die alone at home without anyone noticing?
- janniehater 2y ago
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- rhelz 2y ago
  It means you should not sacrifice your health or relationships with spouse and kids for a company which cares so little about you that you could literally die in your cube and nobody would notice or care.
  - mc32 2y ago
    On the one hand you're blaming the company for not keeping good tabs on workers, on the other you're blaming coworkers and friends for not noticing. How is the company and how are coworkers supposed to care more? Are they supposed to act like gulags with daily roll-calls before and after work where you seek to find out if anyone escaped? This was a lightly used floor of an office that had hybrid workers and it happened over a weekend. I really don't know what more you're asking for? Maybe you want cadaver dogs roaming the floors on a daily basis just in case?
    - rhelz 2y ago
      // you're blaming the company // Hmmm....trying to figure out why you think I'm blaming the company. I'm not really--the company is not your friend, and it's not your family, nor should it be. // I really don't know what more you're asking for? // I'm asking you and everybody who is reading this not to confuse the company with your family and friends. No matter how much time you take away from your friends and family and give to the company, the company will--and should!--fire you as soon as they can find a cheaper way to do your job. It absolutely does not care if you die at your desk and alone. Nor should it.
  - _w1tm 2y ago
    I doubt she had a spouse or kids, if no one realized her passing for three days.
    - rhelz 2y ago
      I wonder why that was? Perhaps she prioritized work over friends and family?
    - bluSCALE4 2y ago
      That would push my point even further. Work gave her solace, why find a husband? I can do it. Why breed? I can have animals. Why be a mother? Work is work and working for a corporation makes me happy. Yet she died at her work for what? Yes, this happens to all people but I believe it happens more often because complicate our lives.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 2y ago
    Even with good relationships, this happens. I can think of two separate friends of my family who lost adult children in this way. They died in their apartments and weren't found for close to a week. One of them was actually a childhood friend of mine.
    - bluSCALE4 2y ago
      I can only speculate but I imagine deluded themselves in one way or another. This life is stacked against sanity.
  - bluSCALE4 2y ago
    I looked at my karma and it dropped a point. I thought, did I post something negative? Then I come to this huge thread my comment spawned. Glad one person got what I was trying to say. Wish you the best.
    - rhelz 2y ago
      chuckle Wish you the best as well. Hold fast to the one's you love.
- dangalite 2y ago
  For one it means nobody noticed the woman was dead in an office for four days, there was no wellness check. It's likely the people she knew best were at work, and well, this is one possible outcome of that lifestyle.
  - bluSCALE4 2y ago
    Yep, work can provide a lot of value to the mind and general day to day well being but at its core, it's all a facade and at some point, everyone realizes it but by then, the biological clock ticked past to the point of no return.
codersfocus 2y ago
I’m pretty sure most people work for money, not those things you mention. And working for money to participate in organized society is objectively easier than going off grid.
- mc32 2y ago
  People tend to forget how grueling pre-modern life before modern society etc., was for people. Most people were one bad season away from starvation and penury. No air conditioning/heat, medicines, heathy food, hygiene, good shelter, lighting, etc. I'm not saying working in early mills or factories was fun, but it beat the hell out of subsistence living so much that people opted for that to remaining in the hinterlands --this still is the case in modern China --that's why there are so many illegal internal migrants moving to city manufacturing sectors.
  - defrost 2y ago
    And yet, despite all that Payirti turned right around, left modern life, the arguing, the fighting, the diabetes, and returned to life as a hunter gather in the vast Kiwirrkurra desert. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30500591 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30500591 Modern people tend to never be aware of how many hunter gathers live long fit healthy lifestyles.
    - mc32 2y ago
      Can that sustain 8-billion? Can they live totally disconnected from modern life? Is it sustainable above and below the tropics of cancer and capricorn? I know there are some !Kung who live alright as bushmen, in a mild climate, but it's not an easy life. Anyhow, more power to them if they remove all traces of modernity from their lives.
      - wruza 2y ago
        Not that I disagree with everything, but 8 billions argument seems misplaced to me. Why should a life style support that many, if valid? Logistic map (aka uncontrolled growth of population or overpopulation) is basically the fundamental source of suffering for all living things. Instead of planning for food, nature just overproduces demand and lets the weak starve to death and the average to just starve. Rather than asking how it would support billions, we should ask how we are planning to not suffer in these numbers. Haven’t heard it regarding our current life style. Everyone tells us to reproduce more and pay more and more astronomic bills and loans, that’s it.

Kind of sums up how people continue to give their lives; their most important years to corporations for self worth and validation when in reality, you mean nothing to them. You're invisible.

mc32 2y ago

What does this mean? Should they monitor people's pulse or heat signature? Should they have someone do rounds and monitor people, maybe poke those seemingly still? This happened over a weekend. Discovered on a Tues. What exactly are you asking for? Are families and friends soulless because sometimes people die alone at home without anyone noticing?

janniehater 2y ago
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rhelz 2y ago
It means you should not sacrifice your health or relationships with spouse and kids for a company which cares so little about you that you could literally die in your cube and nobody would notice or care.
- mc32 2y ago
  On the one hand you're blaming the company for not keeping good tabs on workers, on the other you're blaming coworkers and friends for not noticing. How is the company and how are coworkers supposed to care more? Are they supposed to act like gulags with daily roll-calls before and after work where you seek to find out if anyone escaped? This was a lightly used floor of an office that had hybrid workers and it happened over a weekend. I really don't know what more you're asking for? Maybe you want cadaver dogs roaming the floors on a daily basis just in case?
  - rhelz 2y ago
    // you're blaming the company // Hmmm....trying to figure out why you think I'm blaming the company. I'm not really--the company is not your friend, and it's not your family, nor should it be. // I really don't know what more you're asking for? // I'm asking you and everybody who is reading this not to confuse the company with your family and friends. No matter how much time you take away from your friends and family and give to the company, the company will--and should!--fire you as soon as they can find a cheaper way to do your job. It absolutely does not care if you die at your desk and alone. Nor should it.
- _w1tm 2y ago
  I doubt she had a spouse or kids, if no one realized her passing for three days.
  - rhelz 2y ago
    I wonder why that was? Perhaps she prioritized work over friends and family?
  - bluSCALE4 2y ago
    That would push my point even further. Work gave her solace, why find a husband? I can do it. Why breed? I can have animals. Why be a mother? Work is work and working for a corporation makes me happy. Yet she died at her work for what? Yes, this happens to all people but I believe it happens more often because complicate our lives.
- HeyLaughingBoy 2y ago
  Even with good relationships, this happens. I can think of two separate friends of my family who lost adult children in this way. They died in their apartments and weren't found for close to a week. One of them was actually a childhood friend of mine.
  - bluSCALE4 2y ago
    I can only speculate but I imagine deluded themselves in one way or another. This life is stacked against sanity.
- bluSCALE4 2y ago
  I looked at my karma and it dropped a point. I thought, did I post something negative? Then I come to this huge thread my comment spawned. Glad one person got what I was trying to say. Wish you the best.
  - rhelz 2y ago
    chuckle Wish you the best as well. Hold fast to the one's you love.
dangalite 2y ago
For one it means nobody noticed the woman was dead in an office for four days, there was no wellness check. It's likely the people she knew best were at work, and well, this is one possible outcome of that lifestyle.
- bluSCALE4 2y ago
  Yep, work can provide a lot of value to the mind and general day to day well being but at its core, it's all a facade and at some point, everyone realizes it but by then, the biological clock ticked past to the point of no return.

codersfocus 2y ago

I’m pretty sure most people work for money, not those things you mention. And working for money to participate in organized society is objectively easier than going off grid.

mc32 2y ago
People tend to forget how grueling pre-modern life before modern society etc., was for people. Most people were one bad season away from starvation and penury. No air conditioning/heat, medicines, heathy food, hygiene, good shelter, lighting, etc. I'm not saying working in early mills or factories was fun, but it beat the hell out of subsistence living so much that people opted for that to remaining in the hinterlands --this still is the case in modern China --that's why there are so many illegal internal migrants moving to city manufacturing sectors.
- defrost 2y ago
  And yet, despite all that Payirti turned right around, left modern life, the arguing, the fighting, the diabetes, and returned to life as a hunter gather in the vast Kiwirrkurra desert. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30500591 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30500591 Modern people tend to never be aware of how many hunter gathers live long fit healthy lifestyles.
  - mc32 2y ago
    Can that sustain 8-billion? Can they live totally disconnected from modern life? Is it sustainable above and below the tropics of cancer and capricorn? I know there are some !Kung who live alright as bushmen, in a mild climate, but it's not an easy life. Anyhow, more power to them if they remove all traces of modernity from their lives.
    - wruza 2y ago
      Not that I disagree with everything, but 8 billions argument seems misplaced to me. Why should a life style support that many, if valid? Logistic map (aka uncontrolled growth of population or overpopulation) is basically the fundamental source of suffering for all living things. Instead of planning for food, nature just overproduces demand and lets the weak starve to death and the average to just starve. Rather than asking how it would support billions, we should ask how we are planning to not suffer in these numbers. Haven’t heard it regarding our current life style. Everyone tells us to reproduce more and pay more and more astronomic bills and loans, that’s it.