>but add enough complexity... I don't know that we spend enough time questioning whether that complexity is necessary. Because, yes, if we want to transmogrif

>but add enough complexity... I don't know that we spend enough time questioning whether that complexity is necessary. Because, yes, if we want to transmogrify Web standards largely intended for a static document model into a full-blown application platform then there will definitely be complexity involved. Especially true if we do so while keeping those Web idioms fully surfaced. But, how often do we really need SPAs versus traditonal Web apps that feature judicious use of dynamic behavior? I doubt that the complexity chasm is frequently worth it. But, if it is, then we need to commit to standards/frameworks that push down the complexity by abstracting away the underlying Web idioms that create it.