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Your average person couldn't forge either one. The CA license has a lot of anti-forgery features that I'm sure could be worked around, but not by anyone who isn

Your average person couldn't forge either one. The CA license has a lot of anti-forgery features that I'm sure could be worked around, but not by anyone who isn't premeditating a whole lot of crime. I can understand a reasonable wish from police departments to verify someone's identity even if they're in a place with bad cell coverage, or during a thunderstorm, or when the radio's busted. An ID card is pretty strong evidence of your real ID that doesn't require power or a radio connection or a computer. A cop can just look at it and say, no, that's clearly your older brother.

hnpolicestate 2y ago
The world changed so fast. It was the norm when I went to college in the mid 00's to forge your birthday on your drivers license to get into bars. Kids will have a less interesting and unpredictable future I fear.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  I would never have done that! Having spent a lot of time around today's kids, particularly the ones who grew up in my house, I have the utmost faith in their ability to create new kinds of mischief. They'll be alright.
- jrockway 2y ago
  I would think "replay attack" works in a lot of cases now. Find someone over 21, get their barcode on the back of the license, sticker that over yours. For bars that just scan and get yes/no, you're in. No need to modify the face of the license, which nobody but the TSA seems to look at. (I buy sudafed every month... the pharmacy never checks that I look like the ID; just that the barcode scans.) A place I used to work had 3D badges, so that your face kind of appeared to be sticking out as you inspected the badges. (Lenticular lenses.) I thought this was a neat security feature, so I color printed a copy of my badge and just put it in my badge holder in front of the actual badge to see if anyone would notice mine wasn't 3D. They did not notice, never in 5 years.
alphabettsy 2y ago
College kids are still making and using fake ids. I had one for awhile.

hnpolicestate 2y ago

The world changed so fast. It was the norm when I went to college in the mid 00's to forge your birthday on your drivers license to get into bars. Kids will have a less interesting and unpredictable future I fear.

kstrauser 2y ago
I would never have done that! Having spent a lot of time around today's kids, particularly the ones who grew up in my house, I have the utmost faith in their ability to create new kinds of mischief. They'll be alright.
jrockway 2y ago
I would think "replay attack" works in a lot of cases now. Find someone over 21, get their barcode on the back of the license, sticker that over yours. For bars that just scan and get yes/no, you're in. No need to modify the face of the license, which nobody but the TSA seems to look at. (I buy sudafed every month... the pharmacy never checks that I look like the ID; just that the barcode scans.) A place I used to work had 3D badges, so that your face kind of appeared to be sticking out as you inspected the badges. (Lenticular lenses.) I thought this was a neat security feature, so I color printed a copy of my badge and just put it in my badge holder in front of the actual badge to see if anyone would notice mine wasn't 3D. They did not notice, never in 5 years.

alphabettsy 2y ago

College kids are still making and using fake ids. I had one for awhile.